Dream Revolver, so close, yet so far.

[sparkyv]

My currently most used revolver is a S&W Model 10-11 4-inch heavy barrel. Its with me any time I am out at my hunting property. Its rugged, shoots well, carries nice, its just a smooth functioning and feeling revolver.

But my dream revolver would be my model 10 but scaled up slightly. The features of my dream revolver has never existed as a revolver but S&W has produced all the parts on other revolvers just never brought together in this particular configuration.

First the cartridge, 10mm Auto, This cartridge has the right balance of energy and bullet mass for what I want and already has a readily available short cartridge to pair with it and enables the use of moonclips (moonclips rule!). S&W has clearly made a 10mm Revolver with the S&W 610 but it's on the N-frame and though a fine shooting revolver (I own one) it's too big for the cartridge.

S&W made a 40S&W L-frame in the 646 but they chose to make the cylinder out of titanium and it had extraction issues at 40S&W pressures so 10mm Auto would have never worked but it proves the L-frame is larger enough for 6-shots of 40/10. Just use a stainless cylinder.

Now the frame need to be a fixed sight like my model 10. And S&W did make a fixed sight L-frame in the S&W 681.

So S&W has done all the parts I desire on other revolvers but have never brought them together in this form:

A S&W stainless-steel L-frame with fixed sights, and a round butt. Chambered in 10mm Auto and with a 4-inch full underlug barrel. Hogue rubber grips. Standard cylinder release. Wide smooth trigger. Spurless hammer. Crain ball detent. Simple, rugged, smooth.

-rambling

 

[doubleh]

I prefer adjustable sights and have never damaged one. Maybe I am just careful or lucky but that is the way it's been. I learned the "how to find where to hold fixed sights" to hit what I wanted long ago and still know how but adjustable sights make thing so much easier.

I have said it before but will say it again. People prefer different things so use what you, not someone else likes.

 

[Riomouse911]

Cylinder & Slide makes a nice adjustable sight to fixed sight conversion if anyone ever beats up their adjustable sights enough to replace them.

https://cylinder-slide.com/Category/ExtremeDuty

Stay safe.

 

[P5 Guy]

681 no dash, my only 357MAG I too prefer fixed sights. I have a load that hits to where the sights align.

 

[Mr.Revolverguy]

Man talk about something I think that would be a hot seller. your dream surely caught my attention.

 

[Charlie Martinez]

Wouldn't the 41 Magnum be the choice for someone who likes 10 mm but prefers a revolver? No moon clips similar (better?) performance..

 

[Charlie98]

I would prefer it to be 41mag than 10mm though.

My dream gun is a 4” L frame 6-shot .41 Special with a half lug barrel.

As soon as I started reading this thread, my mind wandered to my Dream Gun... an L-frame, 4", in .41MAG. Personally, I'd rather have the full lug of the 686, I just think it would make shooting it better, particularly with heavier loads. There is debate on whether or not it should be 5- or 6 shots... I'd be happy with 5 if that's what made it safe. As an aside, I'd even take the downgrade to the nebulous .41SPC if that's what it took.

In .38SPC, I don't know if there is a better general purpose revolver than the Model 10 in it's variations... it's just a right handy revolver. Once you bump to the .357, however, I'll take an L-frame everyday, and twice on Sunday.

Wouldn't the 41 Magnum be the choice for someone who likes 10 mm but prefers a revolver? No moon clips similar (better?) performance..

Obviously, for the OP, his heart is set on the 10mm... he is likely already invested in that cartridge, and I see the allure of the 10mm. I am a big fan of the .41... but I must admit, I've always been curious about the 10mm... and particularly in an autoloader... but for my wheely guns, I'll take the .41.

 

[CraigC]

This one is kinda easy. Gunsmiths have been rechambering L-frames to 10mm for decades. It's not particularly difficult or expensive work. 20yrs ago it would've only cost about $300-$400. If a rebore is not possible (problematic since LaBounty closed up) there's enough meat in the L-frame barrel to reline it instead.

Or there's this option:

 

[mcb]

Wouldn't the 41 Magnum be the choice for someone who likes 10 mm but prefers a revolver? No moon clips similar (better?) performance..

To me moonclips are an advantage and desired feature. And moonclips for rimless cartridges are typically much thicker, more robust, and less finicky than than moonclips for rimmed cartridges. I also don't really need the power of 41 Mag. If I thought I needed that much power I could have the chambers of my 10 mm Auto reamed out to 10mm Magnum and have very close to the same power as 41 Mag.

 

[__steve__]

This Janz 500 is my dream revolver. Cost about $16,000 several years back, of course more than that now.

Probably no more performance than a JR .500, but the aesthetics and perhaps durability unlike anything else.

 

[no.5enfield]

Model 581. I saw a beautiful one on GB a while back but more than I was willing to pay.

I've been eyeing those lately.

 

[UncleEd]

In the days of yore when revolvers
were king in law enforcement, the
Big Three had different rules for
their uniformed officers.

In New York, the guys were told to
carry fixed sighted six shooters,
usually in the guise of Model 10s.

In Los Angeles, the boys in blue were
told to carry adjustable sighted
revolvers, the venerable Model 15.

In Chicago, the rule was carry what
you like, fixed or adjustable. Just
make sure the barrel was 4 inches.
And calibers could be .32 right up
to .44 Mag. Knew two "mavericks"
who carried .3.5-inch Model 27s.
Met another who was proud of his
beefed up "Model 10," it being a
Model 58.

 

[Englishmn]

10mm magnum.

 

[ECVMatt]

If people didn’t dream about new styles or caliber combos we would alll still be shooting hand gonnes.

My dream gun is a 4” L frame 6-shot .41 Special with a half lug barrel.

This won’t happen at S&W either, and I doubt I will ever find a custom gunsmith to do it..

But like someone above posted, we can always dream..

Stay safe..

This is pretty close to my dream gun except I would like it in a 5" GP 100 1/2 lug. I would be hopeful that the .41 caliber could increase the thickness of the forcing cone. It scares me a bit on the .44 Specials. I think the 10MM GP would get me pretty close, but I perfer rimmed cases and bullets that can take a good roll crimp.

If I can't get that, then I would love for Ruger to produce something like a Bowen GP44, except I would like it in .45 Colt.

I am definitely bit by the revolver bug!

 

[Vern Humphrey]

If Colt would only make the old New Service again -- or offer the Anaconda in .45 Colt without the full lug

 

[Riomouse911]

In the days of yore when revolvers
were king in law enforcement, the
Big Three had different rules for
their uniformed officers.

In New York, the guys were told to
carry fixed sighted six shooters,
usually in the guise of Model 10s.

In Los Angeles, the boys in blue were
told to carry adjustable sighted
revolvers, the venerable Model 15.

In Chicago, the rule was carry what
you like, fixed or adjustable. Just
make sure the barrel was 4 inches.
And calibers could be .32 right up
to .44 Mag. Knew two "mavericks"
who carried .3.5-inch Model 27s.
Met another who was proud of his
beefed up "Model 10," it being a
Model 58.

Back before San Francisco became a cereal bowl full of flakes, fruits and nuts, the SFPD had Model 58’s in their holsters and Winchester 1894 .30-30’’s in the armory. (SF is unique as it is a city-county with no unincorporated area. There is a sheriff’s department there as well, but it only handles jail, court services-security and court process service rather than patrolling the streets.)

Nowadays they’re probably going to be forced to carry ACLU approved Nerf guns in full flap holsters with no foam bullets in the chambers (that’s scary).

Stay safe.

 

[CraigC]

If Colt would only make the old New Service again -- or offer the Anaconda in .45 Colt without the full lug

I'd get in line for that, especially blued over stainless.

 

[StrawHat]

Close but scale it down to L-frame. I have a bunch of N-frames and love them but they are too big and heavy for comfortable belt carry.

I had a 4” 686. As I recall it weighed the same as a 4” Model 27.


Kevin

 

[ECVMatt]

If Colt would only make the old New Service again -- or offer the Anaconda in .45 Colt without the full lug

A good friend of my has an RCMP stamped Colt New Service in .45 Colt. I love that gun and the history it holds. I would love to see the New Service come back.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

A good friend of my has an RCMP stamped Colt New Service in .45 Colt. I love that gun and the history it holds. I would love to see the New Service come back.

Mine had a 7 1/2" barrel, a front sight as thick as a razor blade and a rear sight to match. It shot very accurately, but 18" high and a foot to the left. I tried everything, but no matter what the gun mags say, you can't fix that. It had been re-blued and buffed so aggressively the markings were badly blurred -- not a collector's item. So I gritted my teeth, had the barrel cut back to 5 1/2 inches and adjustable sights mounted. I put on a set of Herrett Shooting Master grips. Now she shoots dead on, and everyone who sees her tries to buy her.