jimmyraythomason
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No one has ever been able to define quality. In my experience with Charter Arms,Rossi and Taurus handguns none of the "crappy" things you list applied. I have no experience with the EAA.
EAA Windicator 357 , Rossi, Taurus those are my choices
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If you are anywhere close to southern Ohio I would let you shoot my Ruger sp101 and my Taurus ultra lite in 38spl to try them out and see if you at least like shooting them.
As far as not spending a lot to see if you like them or not, if you buy used you can typically get your money back if you decide you don't like them.
As far as not spending a lot to see if you like them or not, if you buy used you can typically get your money back if you decide you don't like them.
frankiestoys
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bdb benzino
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Nice article!! I did'nt think that the Germans could make a bad weapon.
RonBernert
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To see if you will like them?
Geez. I have had several snubbies and I have hated shooting every one of them! It sucks! You run low powered loads thru them and it still sucks! Fact is, (and repeat this as necessary) SNUBBIES ARE NOT THERE TO BE FUN!!! Snubbies are there to save your life! Buy the best one you can! Don't go on a "budget", don't buy one for a test drive!! Buy one because your life depends on it!!
I shoot my S&W 442 as little as 100 rounds per year. I have "fun to shoot" guns, but I don't carry them on me. I carry small guns on me because a cop is too heavy. And because I have trouble sticking an AK47 in my pants. (insert gas tube joke here)
Rent, borrow or go shooting with a buddy who has one or more snubbies and try it out.
S&W, Colt and Ruger are first choices. Buy a Taurus if you like to have that voice in the back of your head say "is this the shot that'll break it?" You would probably catch me dead carrying a Rossi, Charter Arms, EAA Windblower, etc. BUY QUALITY, BUY IT ONCE. (end of rant)
Geez. I have had several snubbies and I have hated shooting every one of them! It sucks! You run low powered loads thru them and it still sucks! Fact is, (and repeat this as necessary) SNUBBIES ARE NOT THERE TO BE FUN!!! Snubbies are there to save your life! Buy the best one you can! Don't go on a "budget", don't buy one for a test drive!! Buy one because your life depends on it!!
I shoot my S&W 442 as little as 100 rounds per year. I have "fun to shoot" guns, but I don't carry them on me. I carry small guns on me because a cop is too heavy. And because I have trouble sticking an AK47 in my pants. (insert gas tube joke here)
Rent, borrow or go shooting with a buddy who has one or more snubbies and try it out.
S&W, Colt and Ruger are first choices. Buy a Taurus if you like to have that voice in the back of your head say "is this the shot that'll break it?" You would probably catch me dead carrying a Rossi, Charter Arms, EAA Windblower, etc. BUY QUALITY, BUY IT ONCE. (end of rant)
jimmyraythomason
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Taurus's shoot every time. So do Rossi's and since that is all that matters in a defense weapon buy what you can afford.
bdb benzino
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Just out of curiosity, have you ever fired any of the brands you warn against Ron B??
RonBernert
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Yes. I was shot at with a Rossi that failed, I've gone thru a Taurus or two, I picked up an EAA and, well, you just kind of know.. A friend is trying to get rid of his Charter Arms "twins".. A .38 and a .327. I have shot both.
I have owned more guns than I can count, and each has it's virtue. I have learned to just not even bother with a budget. It costs what it costs.. Hell, it's just my life...
I have owned more guns than I can count, and each has it's virtue. I have learned to just not even bother with a budget. It costs what it costs.. Hell, it's just my life...
RonBernert
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As a matter of fact, I was cleaning out the safe theother day and took a load of guns to my local dealer to consign.. Among them: Old .32 lemon squeezers, a P64, A bulgarian Makarov, but most notably: a Hi-Point .45. a Chino, California Jennings J-22 and it's younger brother, a Jimenez. I am guilty of buying cheap guns even cheaper from friends who buy them "because they didn't want to spend that much"
bdb benzino
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I appreciate the first hand experience, thanks.
While for the most part I agree with what you are saying, I think Taurus may have become more quality as of lately. I took a chance on a couple snubbies in the last year and have been impressed, especially when comparing them to the new S&W offerings. Not that S&W is bad at all, but not near as good like my 1981 model 10. I have had great service from both of them after a deep cleaning, they had alot of factory gunk on them. I find them to have fairly smooth actions for a new revolver, and they lock up well.
Now I realize about Taurus customer service, but for my $ if I ever have a problem, I will be taking it to my local smithy. For the price of shiping he could fix most problems, and I trust his work as it has been stellar several times.
While for the most part I agree with what you are saying, I think Taurus may have become more quality as of lately. I took a chance on a couple snubbies in the last year and have been impressed, especially when comparing them to the new S&W offerings. Not that S&W is bad at all, but not near as good like my 1981 model 10. I have had great service from both of them after a deep cleaning, they had alot of factory gunk on them. I find them to have fairly smooth actions for a new revolver, and they lock up well.
Now I realize about Taurus customer service, but for my $ if I ever have a problem, I will be taking it to my local smithy. For the price of shiping he could fix most problems, and I trust his work as it has been stellar several times.
RonBernert
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I've never had any major issues out of S&W. I have had to get 3 re-timed, which was kind of odd, but from what I have heard, was normal after a few thousand rounds. I must admit that I know less about Colt, but they have always been just great. Almost every colt I've owned was either a .357 or .44, and 4" or 6". I don't know about being the "cadillac", but they are a very strong Buick.
Above all, I love Rugers. Mainly the Six series. I didn't until a first Ruger purchase a few years ago, but they are truly the workhorse of the revolvers.. Need technical proof? Go buy a reloading manual and look for the ultra-pressure "Ruger-only" loads...
Taurus have just had too much of a checkered reputation for me. The only reason I am still here after a pretty major gunfight one evening at a family store was because the bad guy had a Rossi. He just kept pulling the trigger, but it just didn't fire...
Above all, I love Rugers. Mainly the Six series. I didn't until a first Ruger purchase a few years ago, but they are truly the workhorse of the revolvers.. Need technical proof? Go buy a reloading manual and look for the ultra-pressure "Ruger-only" loads...
Taurus have just had too much of a checkered reputation for me. The only reason I am still here after a pretty major gunfight one evening at a family store was because the bad guy had a Rossi. He just kept pulling the trigger, but it just didn't fire...
Taurus makes a good gun and they also own Rossi so you you get same warranty Rossi also good and offers 6 rounds instead of five in taurus cost runs $75 to $100. less selling here @Rossi $279. Taurus $369. either would be a good choice. JMHO.
Erik M
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I love with the "spend $900 or you are wasting money and risking your life" crowd chimes in. I have shot several rounds through a windicator, accurate at 25 feet and still locks up as tight as the day it was bought.
ljnowell
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I dont think there was a 900 dollar crowd, just simply those of us saying spend spend a little more on something decent.
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