Editorial on the Bush Admin's split on Heller

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March 13, 2008
The Administration's Gun Battle
By Robert Novak

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Preparing to hear oral arguments Tuesday on the extent of gun rights guaranteed by the Constitution's Second Amendment, the U.S. Supreme Court has before it a brief signed by Vice President Cheney opposing the Bush administration's stance. Even more remarkably, Cheney is faithfully reflecting the views of President George W. Bush.

The government position filed with the Supreme Court by U.S. Solicitor General Paul Clement stunned gun advocates by opposing the breadth of an appellate court affirmation of individual ownership rights. The Justice Department, not the vice president, is out of order. But if Bush agrees with Cheney, why did the president not simply order Clement to revise his brief? The answers: disorganization and weakness in the eighth year of his presidency.

Consequently, a Republican administration finds itself aligned
against the most popular tenet of social conservatism: gun rights that enjoy much wider support than opposition to abortion or gay marriage. Promises in two presidential elections are abandoned, and Bush finds himself left of Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama.

The 1976 District of Columbia statute prohibiting ownership of all functional firearms a year ago was called unconstitutional in violation of the Second Amendment in an opinion by Senior Judge Laurence Silberman, a conservative who has served on the D.C. Circuit Court for 22 years. It was assumed Bush would fight Washington Mayor Adrian Fenty's appeal.

The president and his senior staff were stunned to learn, on the day it was issued, that Clement's petition called on the high court to return the case to the appeals court. The solicitor general argued that Silberman's opinion supporting individual gun rights was so broad that it would endanger existing federal gun control laws such as the bar on owning machine guns. The president could have ordered a revised brief by Clement. But under congressional Democratic pressure to keep hands off the Justice Department, Bush did not act.

Cheney did join 55 senators and 250 House members in signing a brief supporting the Silberman ruling. While this unprecedented vice presidential intervention was widely interpreted as a dramatic breakaway from the White House, longtime associates could not believe Cheney would defy the president. In fact, he did not. Bush approved what Cheney did in his constitutional legislative branch role as president of the Senate.

That has not lessened puzzlement over Clement, a 41-year-old conservative Washington lawyer who clerked for Silberman and later for Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. Clement has tried to explain his course to the White House by claiming he feared Justice Anthony Kennedy, the Supreme Court's current swing vote, would join a liberal majority on gun rights if forced to rule on Silberman's opinion.

The more plausible explanation for Clement's stance is that he could not resist opposition to individual gun rights by career lawyers in the Justice Department's Criminal Division (who clashed with the Office of Legal Counsel in a heated internal struggle). Newly installed Attorney General Michael Mukasey, a neophyte at Justice, was unaware of the conflict and learned about Clement's position only after it had been locked in.

A majority of both houses in the Democratic-controlled Congress are on record against the District of Columbia's gun prohibition. So are 31 states, with only five (New York, Massachusetts Maryland, New Jersey and Hawaii) in support. Sen. Obama has weighed in against the D.C. law, asserting that the Constitution confers individual rights to bear arms -- not just collective authority to form militias.

This popular support for gun rights is not reflected by an advantage in Tuesday's oral arguments. Former Solicitor General Walter Dellinger, an old hand at arguing before the Supreme Court, will make the case for the gun prohibition. Opposing counsel Alan Gura, making his first high court appearance, does not have the confidence of gun-owner advocates (who tried to replace him with former Solicitor General Ted Olson).

The cause needs help from Clement in his 15 minute oral argument, but not if he reiterates his written brief. The word was passed in government circles this week that Clement would amend his position when he actually faces the justices -- an odd ending to bizarre behavior by the Justice Department.
 
So the Democrats are right that Bush is a disengaged dunce who has little control over policy? Guess so.

Novak makes a lot of excuses for Bush, but the fact is that all Bush had to do was write a letter to Clement telling him to change his position. I don't really find it credible that Bush had no idea what the DOJ was doing; someone is feeding this to Novak to cover Bush's ass. The fact that Bush didn't lift a finger to help his most loyal constituency says a lot about him; loyalty is a one-way street. Like father like son. They have the attitude of royalty.

Bush's betrayal of conservatives is hardly surprising. He did the same thing in the Michigan affirmative action case.
 
Why some conservatives still like Bush is beyond me? He has singlehandedly plunged the Republican Party asunder. My take is that Bush is corrupt with power as he tries to consolidate the Office of the President and Federal power. The fact the moronic Republican Congress followed him off the cliff for short term gains astounds me. The only thing Bush protected was the big oil interests that put him in office. I am glad that Chenney did file a brief in support for Heller, for once he did something right.
 
But if Bush agrees with Cheney, why did the president not simply order Clement to revise his brief?

Because Bush, despite what many would like to think, is no friend of the RKBA. I still laugh when people say that his statement about signing the AWB was only political maneuvering. "He knew they'd never send it to him." Bull. Like most Republicans in office today he pays lip service to the RKBA but doesn't really care about it.
 
Shooter, I know where you're coming from BUT, pray tell, what other REALISTIC choice was/is there..........Oh yeah, vote for Paul.........that amounts to a Nadarist approach. Like him or not, agree with the direction the R party took or not, there simply was/IS no other choice that's viable.


I'm registered as a Republican, but in truth I'm a Libertarian in my heart. I AM a single issue voter when it comes to the matter of the 2nd........for that matter ANY part of the Bill of Rights.........I despise McCain for Feingold, I deplore the self serving opportunists that destroyed the very real chance we had for reform in the last ten years. I most seriously considered sending my R voter registration card to Martinez and going Independant......BUT.......since I live in a closed primary state that would only result in partly silencing myself.......something I am not willing to do.

Idealism is a wonderful promise with damned little substance in the real world. If we are to survive the mess that several generations of our countrymen have created since our war between the states we'd best walk a hard but carefully considered road.

After all, would you have taken Kerry over Bush, or for that matter how about a Johnson over Goldwater..........I damned sure remember what THAT got us!
 
Pretty sure Clement can't argue off brief, besides the case is already decided the argments are just mainly for fun
 
The more plausible explanation for Clement's stance is that he could not resist opposition to individual gun rights by career lawyers in the Justice Department's Criminal Division (who clashed with the Office of Legal Counsel in a heated internal struggle). Newly installed Attorney General Michael Mukasey, a neophyte at Justice, was unaware of the conflict and learned about Clement's position only after it had been locked in.

The court eunuchs never seem to tire of controversy, do they?
 
The only thing Bush protected was the big oil interests that put him in office.
I was under the impression that having the most electoral votes was what put him in office.
 
Certainly wasn't the popular vote, the first time.

We are beating a dead horse. Bush was not up for the job. The disbanding of the Iraqi Army - seen as a disaster by almost everyone was done in the same way - complete surprise to him (but debated if it happened that way).

Clueless on Katrina and Brownie.

His incompetence will lead to a Democratic administration - McCain's chance is that he is NOT a dunce like Bush and the Democrats self-destruct.
 
I thought the author was smarter than this until I read it in the Post this morning.

"The solicitor general argued that Silberman's opinion supporting individual gun rights was so broad that it would endanger existing federal gun control laws such as the bar on owning machine guns."

What bar? The $200 tax?

John
 
What bar? 922(o): The bar that says you can't own one made after 1986 (limiting you to a small pool of aging, worn, obsolete, and massively over-priced items having little practical value as tools).

If you want a worn 25-year-old M16 for $18,000 go ahead - IF you can find a seller.
You SHOULD be able to pick up a brand-new unlimited-production M4 for $700.
 
Sorry for the perceived thread drift - I was just commenting that this type of behavior from Bush wasn't new. I agree with Carl - a truly pro-active RKBA president - when he had majorities in Congress - could have acted on the NFA rules or a host of other gun thingees.
 
It looks like Bush went to bat for the ozone polluters:
The Environmental Protection Agency weakened one part of its new limits on smog-forming ozone after an unusual last-minute intervention by President Bush, according to documents released by the EPA.

EPA officials initially tried to set a lower seasonal limit on ozone to protect wildlife, parks and farmland, as required under the law. While their proposal was less restrictive than what the EPA's scientific advisers had proposed, Bush overruled EPA officials and on Tuesday ordered the agency to increase the limit, according to the documents.
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The president's order prompted a scramble by administration officials to rewrite the regulations to avoid a conflict with past EPA statements on the harm caused by ozone.

Solicitor General Paul D. Clement warned administration officials late Tuesday night that the rules contradicted the EPA's past submissions to the Supreme Court, according to sources familiar with the conversation. As a consequence, administration lawyers hustled to craft new legal justifications for the weakened standard.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/13/AR2008031304175_pf.html
Of course it makes perfect sense for Bush to act in one case and not the other. Ozone pollution is a fundamental constitutional right, and millions of ozone pollution supporters elected President Bush twice and gave him a Republican Congress for most of his term. Plus, Bush was of course afraid to interfere with the SG in Heller's case because only a tiny minority in Congress support gun rights (over half is minority, right?), while the vast majority of Congress support ozone pollution. Citizens have been lobbying for pollution for years, while those who support gun rights are weak and ineffective. And everyone knows that it is much harder to defy the BATF's bureaucracy (at least it would be if it actually had a director) than the EPAs.

:scrutiny:

:fire:
 
Don't forget Bush's hysterical level intervention for Terry Schiavo. Must have been the brain - dead lobby was important to him. :evil:

Yeah, Kerry would have been worse but the point is that Kerry wasn't supposed to be a pro-RKBA president. If he was in and acted to ban guns then he would have been true to his constituents. Not that we would agree with that but if you do what you've been hired to do, you are at least honest.
 
Cheney did shoot someone....

You know, I'm about to REALLY slip off the High Road here.

No content, no relevance, no humor, no point. Nice one......
I bet the guys over at DU miss you........
 
:neener: Vincente Fox said Bush is scared of horses - BTW. I don't know if he is scared of dead ones. :)
 
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The government position filed with the Supreme Court by U.S. Solicitor General Paul Clement stunned gun advocates by opposing the breadth of an appellate court's affirmation of individual ownership rights. The Justice Department, not the vice president, is out of order. But if Bush agrees with Cheney, why did the president not simply order Clement to revise his brief? The answers: disorganization and weakness in the eighth year of his presidency.


And there you have it. You either believe that Bush is too weak to control his VP or he is too weak to control the SG. My money is on Cheney. Cheney has always been pro 2A and never voted against it that I know of.

He knows his career is over in January and has nothing to lose at this point. He neither cares nor worries about offending the president because everything is pretty well set. And he clearly stands out from the crowd as NOT a moron:


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In 1988, he was one of only 4 members voting against a ban on plastic guns that could slip through airport security machines undetected.

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Everyone read the title of the thread. If it's not about the Bush administration's response to Heller, I need to learn another language. Sorry if it gets some folk's panties in a wad to speak the truth about our fearless leader, but I think in this case, it's pretty relevant to how the legal proceedings are playing out, and with that, could have a major impact on our 2nd amendment rights.

I hope this doesn't step on more toes, but I can't help but notice that another story that is prominent in the media right now is the report that Bush personally intervened to weaken a proposed regulation on smog. Whatever you think about the merits of that case, it's pretty evident to me where Mr. Bush's priorities are.

EDIT- Missed green-griz's reply. I really need to get a laptop with a larger screen...
 
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