Educate a newbie: why buy new brass?

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My brass collection consists entirely of PMC and Blazer range ammo brass. The Blazer seems to be holding up very well, but I'm getting suspect of some of the PMC; it seems to be made of thinner stuff.

And then there are the bags of 100pcs of brand new Starline brass at the Cabela's. I'm probably going to have to start replacing brass soon to keep my stock up; is brand new brass "better" somehow than once-fired?
 
I'm assuming pistol so correct me if I guessed wrong.

I've never bought new brass for any pistol caliber. I'm not too picky as long as it's in good shape. I've bought once fired a few times because with arthritis it's easier than struggling to pick it off the ground.

If I were handshaking for precision rifle I might want to start with new brass that's all the same age and manufacturer.
 
Guess what "new brass" is after you fire it ??
There are plenty of sellers of once fired range brass out there, at pretty good prices too. I shoot mixed range brass I pick up some last longer than others but not one brand stands way out above the others. I get 20 or more reloads out of the 45 acp brass befor i see a lot of splitting. good luck
 
Okay, fair enough. I just wondered if new brass, intended for handloading, was thicker, stronger, or otherwise better than factory brass which isn't built with handloading in mind.
 
Brass quality varies by company, some of the worse ever was AMERC, the brass quality was so poor, people had ammunition blowups with factory AMERC.

New brass certainly has been fired less. The absolute safest procedure is to fire brass once and not reload. Brass provides the gas seal in the weapon, cartridge cases are not "pressure vessels", they are gas seals and they must be supported by the action of they will rupture. If a case ruptures than what happens afterwards is very unpredictable.

Reloaders, being cheap skates, don't like tossing out brass, want to save money by reusing their brass. There is risk in this as brass does work harden with use, any material flaws in the brass will surface with continued use, but reloaders tend to accept these risks as the cost benefit of reusing brass is substantial.

Good brass, good brass can be reloaded a number of times. Who makes good brass varies unfortunately as all ammunition manufacturers go through periods where posters report problems with their cases. As a general rule, I have had good luck with all American brass cases. I think Starline makes an excellent case. Federal rifle cases are a disappointment as the case heads in my 223, 308, and 30-06 are soft and open up after a couple of reloads. I don't have any more problems with Federal pistol brass than any other brand.

Foreign made brass is a crap shoot. Laupa is as good as it gets, Norma was excellent, but stuff from South East Asia, some good, some substandard.
 
With pistol, I personally would never buy new brass. Too cheap to buy once fired or find on the range. About the only way I'd buy would be if I was competing with my pistol.

Rifle brass, I bought new for my match brass, because I wanted to know for sure how many times it had been reloaded.

My hunting rifle brass, no reason to not buy once fired.
 
What calibers? Handgun, like 9mm 40, 45?? No reason to buy new brass. PMC and Blazer BRASS are fine, I have brass from when I shot at a public range that is many years old, it has been loaded many many times. It is mixed headstamp of all different kinds, Used to stand next to someone shooting a caliber I needed and asked if they saved their brass if not it was mine, soon folks were just giving be whatever, Back when ammo was cheap. The only brass I recall buying new was 45 Colt as you do not find that laying around.

The brass is the same in factory loads that is sold separately, Some brands do use Starline and Starline makes the brass for some big name companies (handgun caliber)

Even 223/5.56 if it is once fired is fine.

Some folks have anecdotal preferences in brand names but i doubt it makes much difference, If you need brass and have to buy it get it from a reliable source that cleans, inspects and removes any military crimp

I did buy some once fired 223/5.56 from this company as I hate decrimping military primers,:eek:

http://www.tjconevera.com/
 
I shoot range brass in .32 ACP, 9mm, .40 when I had one, .45 ACP, .38 Spl, .357 Mag, .223 (Except accuracy minded stuff), .35 Remington, .30-30, & .45 Colt. I shoot range brass .308 for plinking and fun, Lapua for accuracy.

Scrounged most of it. Bought some of it. I bought some new Starline .38 Spl brass, but couldn't shoot well enough to prove if it shot better or not.

So, what caliber, and what use?
 
Caliber .357 magnum. Use: plinking for now, but I want to get good enough to compete in target shooting sports.
 
>Educate a newbie: why buy new brass?
Because the cartridge is rare enough that you CAN'T find used brass, but Starline still makes cases for it.
Try finding 1000 once-fired .38 Super, 9x21, .32 S&W Long, .32-30, or other seldom seen cases.
Other reason is because one make of cases is "best" in your gun and you want to use only "the best." R.P. cases have thinner walls and accuracy is much better out of my S&W M52 than with other case brands, so I bought new cases and use the old cases for revolvers.
If your concern had any merit, than the reloading manuals and the case manufacturer's would be screaming from the hills for you to buy new cases only.
 
VanGoghComplex said:
Caliber .357 magnum. Use: plinking for now, but I want to get good enough to compete in target shooting sports.

Then look into .38 special brass. ;)

As others note, mixed handgun brass isn't normally a problem, with performance or durability. Formal target shooters get fussier, though. There, it makes sense to use quality brass from the same manufacturer for the consistency, so buying new and hanging onto it makes sense. Starline is good stuff. Federal, IMO, is pretty good, too. Most people at target events mark the back of their cases in some unique way (red stripe, black cross, etc) to be sure they get their brass back.
 
">Educate a newbie: why buy new brass?Because the cartridge is rare enough that you CAN'T find used brass, but Starline still makes cases for it.

Never found enough range brass in .32 ACP, 9X18 or .30 mauser so I had to buy new. Not many people att he club shoot those calibers.
 
For me buying brass has always been an economic decision. If the cost of buying new brass and loading it closely equals (my time is worth something) or exceeds the cost of factory loaded ammo then it makes more sense to buy loaded ammo and use the empties for reloading. If the reverse is true then I'll buy brass.

Brass us usable as long as it isn't cracked or mangled to the point it can't be resized. I always have some range pickup's as "spares" to replace the occasional piece of brass out of a batch that cracks so I can keep full boxes.
 
MOST of my brass is used....The last bag I bought of new brass was like already mentioned "hard to find" 357 Max...

Most of my new/used brass came from "On Sale" ammo or use to, now "On Sale" is more than regular price use to be...:banghead: :D

Oh well...thats another reason we reload....Right?

But I enjoy it, it's a fun and addicting hobby.

TxD
 
The only pistol case I would buy new is the zinc coated stuff, since that stuff seems to split after reloading it one time. Otherwise range brass is all I use and have had no problems.
 
.357 brass can be hard to find, .38 Special a bit easier, but range brass can be found.
If I see someone shooting a .357/.38 and they are throwing the brass down I always ask if I can have it, most people who don't reload don't seem to mind.

I seem to find quite a bit of 9mm and .45 APC brass left on the range. If I was a good enough shot and I was shooting Bullseye Competition I might by new brass but the free stuff seems to work good enough for my use.
One good thing about .357 is it is easy to spot in all the 9mm/40 brass on the ground and in less than MAX loads it lasts quite well.
Last time I looked you could buy loaded PPU (Prvi Partizan)
.357 for not a lot more than some places wanted for once fired brass.
The Privi brass that I have for 9mm, 9X18 MAK and 7mm Rem Mag seems to be good quality.

So I would say if you can find any .357 range brass grab it and use it!
 
I've got a bucket full of mixed 40 S&W brass, Remington, Federal, PMC, Winchester, Fiocchi. None of it has given me any problems.

For rifle reloading, different story. I'm a 100% Remington brass guy, its all I'll load. When I need brass, I buy Remington ammo, lol.
 
I like to use new brass for my wheel guns, but that's mostly because rimmed handgun range brass is rare.

Now with 9mm or .40 cal brass, I almost always use range pick ups. Haven't had any noticeable problems with PMC, but it might be a little thinner.

Some of my bottle neck brass is once fired, but I do buy new stuff when I see a good deal. But I really like once fired bottle neck, but that's because it's easier to get a good head space fit on the first run by partial resizing. If adjusted correctly, the FL die will bump the shoulder up to the desired position.

GS
 
Mixed range brass. Target at 7 yards, chrono at 5 yards.

Maybe if I was a better shooter they would all be in the group with new brass, but I have tried it before with new brass, with the same basic results, repeatedly, so I must not be good enough. :)

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