Empty Holster Protest - non-holster participation?

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Alrighty. Students for Concealed Carry on Campus announced an Empty Holster Protest Week. http://www.concealedcampus.org/press.htm

I'd like to do something to help with the protest, but I think without a decently large group (5+ people), the empty holster is a bad idea. I think someone in an earlier thread also mentioned that some colleges might peg a holster as "weapons paraphernalia/accessories". I think it could be pulled off with an obviously kiddie cowboy holster (in bright yellow plastic!), but still not something I want to do right now, especially without a SCCC group at my school. ("Local police question solitary holster-toting protester who claims she was joining hundreds across the country in a similar demonstration.") :D :scrutiny:

Does anyone else have plans to join in the protest, but without the holster? Maybe some stickers could be made up - even just an image for you to print your own. Or any other creative ideas. I liked the idea from Blackbeard, to make "body armor" out of the college's weapons policy, but body armor's a bit much. Maybe something else? Holster, hat, bag, cell phone case? Cutout heart placed over chest? I'll brainstorm for myself, but I'd love to hear other ideas. I'd like to use the weapons policy in some way. Any good catchphrases to use with it? I'm thinking:
"In case of emergency, use policy as magical bullet shield."
"Scientific Breakthrough: Paper Stops Bullets!" (put this on a copy of the school newspaper and walk around with it)
In fact, the protest is so close to Halloween, an adventurous soul could even be a walking Weapons Policy/Magical Bullet Shield. :evil:
 
If you are too worried to wear a holster why take part at all, it seems to defeat the overall effort.
 
:cool: Seems to me that it falls under freedom of expression, right? I can only hope and pray that some of my graduate students show up sporting their holsters! Come to think of it, I should post that flyer on the college's boards.
 
If you are too worried to wear a holster why take part at all, it seems to defeat the overall effort.
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I'd probably be less concerned if there was a group to participate with; as it stands, there isn't, so IMHO wearing one would be more theatrical/gendarme-attracting and less effective in the long run. I still want to support concealed carry in schools, so why not do it during the appointed week? My $.02. Some people just aren't going to do the holster thing (although I recommend it!), but that doesn't mean they shouldn't do anything. :)
 
Here is a post I created in reactio to our campus policy: I called it Campus Insecurity Finally Reacts to the VT Attack. Here is the link, and again I post our college's insecurity policy:

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=273232&highlight=Campus+Insecurity

IF CONFRONTED BY A THREATENING PERSON:
Leave the area and get out of harm’s way.
Call Campus Safety and/or 9-911 immediately.

IF UNABLE TO LEAVE THE AREA:
Try to stay at a safe distance.
Try to calm the threatening individual.
Try to get the attention of a co-worker so they can call Security/9-911.
Listen to the individual and let them do most of the talking.
Use delaying techniques to give the individual the opportunity to calm down.
Acknowledge the person’s feelings.
Be respectful and empowering.
Be reassuring and point out choices.

DON’T:
Upset the individual with communication that generates hostility.
Reject all of the person’s demands from the start.
Use body language or speech that challenges the individual.
Make sudden movements.
Belittle, criticize or agitate the person.
Make false statements or promises.
 
Seems to me that it falls under freedom of expression, right? I can only hope and pray that some of my graduate students show up sporting their holsters! Come to think of it, I should post that flyer on the college's boards.
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Here in Illinois, wearing an empty holster at a JC got Shaun Kranish arrested. After much legal tussle, the charge was thrown out.

Police often charge disorderly conduct or some similar charge (resisting, disturbing, etc.) when you have done nothing wrong but they want to arrest you anyway. It will get thrown out in court, eventually, but in the meantime you go down, you pay lawyer bills, you lose time off work or school due to the fiasco.

And the school may well punish you in other ways. You can bet if you are advancing a non PC idea, even in a non-threatening and respectful way, they will come down on you like a ton of bricks on many campuses.

Many schools have their own police departments that work directly for the school. They know where their paycheck is coming from and will do exactly as their masters in the school administration tell them.

Just things to think about.
 
Stick your cell phone in the holster.

It's hardly a firearm accessory then eh?

Thought you college boys was 'sposed to be smart? :)
 
We are going with the shirts over here. We would like to do the holster thing, but decided it would just inspire fear instead of educate.
 
Stick your cell phone in the holster.
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That is actually a very good idea. Adds a further message that 911 isn't the same as having a tool at the ready. To bad my razor won't fit in my kydex properly though.
 
For a few bucks apiece you could get shirts made with your particular school's weapons code cited on it. And then underneath some witty phrase like "now this shirt is bullet proof right?". Kind of like the wearing the policy as body armor, but in shirt form instead of taping sheets of paper to you.
 
If I'd heard about this earlier, I might have bought a shirt, but the time it takes to print, and then to ship, it'd be here after the week. I just plan on putting my holster on the strap of my bookbag.

I also printed out the press release, and plan to talk with my department head tomorrow. That will be an interesting conversation.
 
You could just wear a tank top - you know, to exercise your right to bare arms. ;)


Oh, and about that "IF CONFRONTED BY A THREATENING PERSON" list:

IF UNABLE TO LEAVE THE AREA:
Try to stay at a safe distance.
Try to calm the threatening indi- BANG!
Apply pressure to your wound(s).
Play dead so that you won't get shot again. :rolleyes:
 
Some great responses so far! Thanks guys. Particularly liked taurusowner's, for a group:

For a few bucks apiece you could get shirts made with your particular school's weapons code cited on it. And then underneath some witty phrase like "now this shirt is bullet proof right?". Kind of like the wearing the policy as body armor, but in shirt form instead of taping sheets of paper to you.
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The shirt order won't work this time around, but I likes it.

You could just wear a tank top - you know, to exercise your right to bare arms.
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:D
And TallPine, might I co-opt that "list" should I decide to print/make something?

Cellphone holsters? You mean like this? Or this? :D
 
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If you are too worried to wear a holster why take part at all, it seems to defeat the overall effort.
I'd probably be less concerned if there was a group to participate with; as it stands, there isn't, so IMHO wearing one would be more theatrical/gendarme-attracting and less effective in the long run. I still want to support concealed carry in schools, so why not do it during the appointed week? My $.02. Some people just aren't going to do the holster thing (although I recommend it!), but that doesn't mean they shouldn't do anything.
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I think if someone is unwilling to wear an empty holster, they are probably not the sort you would want to have a non-empty holster in a stressful situation. Maybe they could show their support by buying a holster for someone else as a gift.

On the other hand, I'd be a little concerned about the guy wearing five holsters at the same time, too.
 
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I think if someone is unwilling to wear an empty holster, they are probably not the sort you would want to have a non-empty holster in a stressful situation. Maybe they could show their support by buying a holster for someone else as a gift.
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How does a students concern over being thrown out of school relate to his ability to defend himself? Not all students can afford a legal battle to support their carrying ideology.
 
I don't know about the empty holster thing.

Speaking from first hand experience an empty holster here in Knoxville can get you stopped, terry frisked and your car searched. Don't know if they would actually arrest you for it. On UT's campus I imagine they would frown on the thing and it would end poorly for those participating.
 
I think if someone is unwilling to wear an empty holster, they are probably not the sort you would want to have a non-empty holster in a stressful situation. Maybe they could show their support by buying a holster for someone else as a gift.
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Or.....maybe they (I) don't care to be tapped on the shoulder in class by campus/real police? Or scare students? Or create bad press for 2A rights by being the only person on campus with an empty holster? :uhoh: I prefer to study for my finals without worrying about a legal case. :)
 
What an attitude! "The police were on the way. They did what they were supposed to do." :barf:

Thumbs up to your daughter - maybe she dropped a seed in someone else's mind, even if ISTYA couldn't get the concept.
 
Yea Oana she is opinionated , and frankly scares most " kids " her age .. at least as far as boys goes lol . I cant honestly say i am opposed to that at this point tho since i do have grandkids and do want her to finish her education lol .
 
Hmmm....

I just wore an empty holster to school (didn't really feel like taking my belt off for a 5 min trip).

I just realized, my holsters are friggin concealed holsters :banghead:

Ain't gonna make much difference to wear or not to wear, unless I drasticaly alter how I wear clothing so people can see it.
 
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