Enfield No.2 Mark 1 at local store. Good buy?

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At a local store there is what apears to be a Enfield No.2 Mark 1 revolver in 38 S&W. It is in Exelent condition (Almost New:eek: ), DAO, and is selling for $200. Webley and Scott made these revolvers from what I understand, but the only stamping to show the maker is "EMP". The barrel and all six cylinders have BNP Proof marks, but no other import marks are visible. ".38 Cal" is stamped on the top of the barrel to indicate caliber. The serial number is 13XX. Any info on this weapon and market value would be very helpfull. I figure that this gun survived the smelter and should be given a good home.

I also need to know if this gun is C&R, I don't see it on the ATF website, but it is for certian more than 50 years old from the serial #, it places it at about 1929-1931 acording to this site, making it a very early model. http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/4849/webley

/Thanks again.
 
It is definitely a C&R, as for the price I can't help you there but it doesn't seem too bad to me.
 
That seems to be a fairly good price based on what they seem to be going for on Gunbroker and Auction Arms.

They were manufactured by both Enfield and Webley (though it was a Webley design).
 
When you say DAO, I assume you mean there isn't a hammer spur. How long is the barrel? That is a very good price, remember it is .38/200 which equates to .38 S&W, not .38 special. If you don't want it, please send me the shop's phone number and I'll buy it. [email protected]
 
I wanted one of these for years but balked at the usual asking prices. About 6 months ago I spied one on a gun show table tagged at $100. It looked unfired. The seller said it had something wrong with it so it was marked down. I tried the action and it was very heavy and erratic. I bought it, took it home and washed all the old, hardened grease out of the action. Works fine, now. May have been an unissued gun still filled with packing grease.

I bagged some used .38 S&W dies and a bag of new cases. Mine shoots .357 sized lead bullets pretty good. A great plinker.

I see these selling for $250-$350 in most cases. A clean one $200 is probably a good deal.
 
If it's a Webley Mk IV, it will say so. The grips have the Webley name molded into them, and the Webley Winged Bullet trade mark will be stamped somewhere on the barrel.
I'm unfamiliar with the EMP. Where is it stamped?
Also, as far as I know, Webleys all have hammer spurs.
JT
 
The "EMP" is on the left side of the frame about .5" from the "start" of the barrel and about .5" below the barrel. From what I can see it apears this is a good buy.:) Even better is that nobody at the store knows how much it is worth since it is not in the "blue book" of gun values. I'll start by asking $150 for it and work from there. I'll post a pic if I get a chance.
 
Buy It!

My father bought me an excellent condition Enfield No. 2, Mk 1* when I was in junior high (1990) for $125. It is a 1938 production gun that underwent factory refurbishment in 1948 (probably explains the condition- I have a feeling that a 1938 gun might have seen a little use during the war :) ).

This weapon was my first handgun, and served as a constant companion during high school and college for hiking/camping trips along the Colorado Front Range.

My Enfield is extremely accurate for a DAO revolver and offers excellent combat sights, good ergonomics and fast loading/re-loading with the break-open design. Speedloaders for a Colt Police Positive Special or Detective Special work well.

I like the .38 S&W round. The current factory loadings of a 145 or 146 gr. LRN at 680 fps or so offer deep but not excessive penetration in soft targets. The best thing is that out of the Enfield, the round develops little blast or flash, and is one of the few guns I will fire without ear protection on a limited basis. If you can find some of the 178 or 180 gr. FMJ service loads, they really increase the power factor of the gun. I would like to try reloading the gun with some 200 gr. LRNs (original service load) but have not done so yet.

I still use my Enfield as one of my primary home defense weapons, and carry it for CCW on occasion.

BUY IT and ENJOY!!!!!
 
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Got it on layaway for $170. Since I am using my C&R I don't have to have it transfered across state lines to an FFL holder cause I AM an FFL holder.:D (FYI: Gun is in MN, I'm in ND.)
 
An Enfield No. 1, Mk 2* was the first gun I ever bought. I saw it in the case and the WWII appeal and the low price sold me on it. Of course, I didn't realize that .38 S&W was different from .38 Special. I still have the gun, but looking back, I could have made a better choice for a first gun.

I paid $150 for mine back in 1990, btw.
 
An Enfield is an Enfield and a Webley is a Webley. They are not the same and Webley & Scott did not make Enfield pattern revolvers.
Although Albion Motors and Coventry Gauge & Tool of Scotland, and Howard Auto Cultivator in Australia did after WW II started to supplement Enfield manufacture. Webley cranked out "war finish" Mk IV .38s which had lost out to Enfield in 1928.

I don't know what "EMP" stands for.
 
Jim Watson is correct, but Enfield Arsenal did make some .455 MK. VI revolvers identical to the ones purchased earlier from Webley. Those were made, I believe, from 1921-about 1927 when the Enfield .38 was adopted. Apparently, they wanted to squeeze out Webley and make them cheaper (but, as good) at the Crown arsenal. This was permitted because the Crown cannot be sued.

Lone Star
P.S. I've owned both Webley and Enfield-made MK VI revolvers, and the markings are the only difference that I recall.
 
There is some minor differences between the Enfield and Webley I think one being one has a sideplate and one does not. I acquired a decent Enfield, 1932 production, with the hammer spur for $150 this year and though I did pretty well. A DAO version, by far much more common but in superb shape and for $170 seems to be a good deal also.
 
Yea, it is definitly an Enfield. Only serious finish wear is on the latch and you can't realy avoid that. Very tight and should be a nice gun. Going to have to get 38 S&W dies now to reload for the darn thing.:rolleyes:
 
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