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I would act "violently and deliberately" if someone was tyring to kill me!

God this makes me angry. :fire:

Man 'fired harpoon in boy's face'

A man fired a harpoon gun into a 15-year-old boy's face as he was attacked with a baseball bat by a gang, a court has been told.

Nathan Kirk, 25, fired the harpoon after being stabbed just short of his heart, Reading Crown Court heard.

The youth's injury was so serious that he lost an eye and paramedics had to use bolt-cutters to remove the three-pronged harpoon from his face.

Mr Kirk denies causing GBH with intent and having an offensive weapon.

Prosecutor Julian Baughan QC told the court that the incident happened after a confrontation.

Survival 'a miracle'

That was said to have been sparked by Mr Kirk's alleged warning to the teenager not to vandalise a phone box near his girlfriend's home in Thatcham, Berkshire.

Mr Kirk told the police in a statement that the teenager was "kicking and swinging" on it and an argument broke out between the two.

Later, Mr Baughan said, the teenager returned with two men and attacked Mr Kirk, who was dressed only in boxer shorts, punching, kicking and stabbing him.

But Mr Kirk, who is alleged to have left the harpoon gun by the front door, fired it in the face of the teenager, he said.

Mr Baughan told the court it was "little short of a miracle" that the teenager survived and added: "Although he was injured, Kirk reacted violently and deliberately."

Mr Kirk told police in a statement that he had cocked the gun to keep his attackers at bay and, as he lifted it, was hit in the face with a baseball bat, causing the trigger to go off.

His lawyers argue that he was acting in self-defence but the prosecution say that the violence had already stopped and that it was a revenge attack.

The trial continues.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/berkshire/3813115.stm
 
So, legally I can beat the living **** out of someone and if I stop swinging for a second they can't hit me back? Is this how it works over there? I guess I don't get it. Maybe I don't want to, I don't know.
 
This is classic example of what you get when you trade liberty for the false promise of security.


Makes me think of the old expression: "the law is an ass"



I wonder what prosecutor Baughan's take on justified self defense would be if he was on the receiving end of such an unprovoked attack?




nero
 
Expect Agricola to show up soon and say:

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It is a lie. There is no crime in Britain.
It was not self defense.
The stabbing was just for show.
There was no knife in his bowels, not even within 100 miles.
It was not a case of self defense, this is a lie of American satan snakes.
 
Thank you BOOFUS! :) That was my laugh for the day.

Now how long will it take for Agricola to show up? Wonder if he'll think it's funny too? :evil:
 
I remember when Brits proudly sang:

"Rule, Brittania, Brittania rules the waves,
Britons never never shall be slaves!"

Well, I guess the day of free Britons has passed.

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I don't think either Agricola or W4rma will make an appearance until this thread gets moved to Legal. I don't think they own any guns, so they don't frequent these parts. :scrutiny:

They just do the Comical Ali impersonation in L&P to aggravate people.
 
His lawyers argue that he was acting in self-defence but the prosecution say that the violence had already stopped and that it was a revenge attack.

So you've been stabbed and you're attaker is still facing you, but the prosecutor says the violence had stopped? Duh, it stopped because he shot the attacker, not because the attaker chose to stop. Argh.
 
A Harpoon to the face:what:
Dang. Had to cut the thing in half? Sounds like a commercial for Dremel.

Mebbe the attacker was a little chunky, ya think?
 
*wheeze* I watched an episode of CSI where the infernal woman who killed a guy over an insult got off. Read a thread about a kid who slaughtered his "friend" over 100 dollars, read a thread about prosecutors considering pressing murder charges against a kid who shot a man who was beating his g*dd**ned mother, and now this?! I think you guys are conspiring to give me a heart attack, or become some insane philosopher who thinks humanity has less than no intrinsic value, is patently evil except when he strives to overcome it, and prefers the feeling of security when surrounded by evil to the feeling of responsibility when surrounded by good.

<cartman> You... guys.... I.. am so... p***d off... right now!! </cartman>
Someone needs to take a Depleted Uranium cluebat the size of God to Britain's collective thick, fascist skull. And then that same someone needs to take said DU cluebat (size: God) and drop the hammer (thereby dispensing the "indiscriminate justice" for you Starcraft folks) on the liberal bleeding-heat *expletive*s here.

*wheeze, pant* I seriously need to get away from this computer, THR is pushing my 17-year-old blood vessels to about 2000 PSI past their rated pressure-limit.

~Slam_Fire
"I'm about to drop the hammer and dispense some indiscriminate justice!" ~MSgt. Siege Tank Driver, Starcraft
 
ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!

I think this line in particular sums it up nicely:

Although he was injured, Kirk reacted violently and deliberately."

Now, maybe I'm just messed up in the head, but in my ideal world, this line would read as such:

BECAUSE he was injured, Kirk reacted violently and deliberately TO END THE ATTACK AND THREAT TO HIS LIFE.

greg
 
Wow, someplace that's more ****ed up than California...

Doing THAT is an impressive stunt.
 
Mr Kirk told police in a statement that he had cocked the gun to keep his attackers at bay and, as he lifted it, was hit in the face with a baseball bat, causing the trigger to go off.

His lawyers argue that he was acting in self-defence but the prosecution say that the violence had already stopped and that it was a revenge attack.

Ahh ... makes perfect sense ... the "violence had already stopped" because the baseball bat was stopped by Mr. Kirk's face ... now had he shot the guy after the bat was in motion before the it had hit his face then he'd be in the clear?



Every time I read one of these stories I want to invade England and liberate the poor souls trapped in that totalitarian police state :(
 
Someone needs to take a Depleted Uranium cluebat the size of God to Britain's collective thick, fascist skull.

[placing tongue firmly in cheek]

Well - we could always invade the UK and make them the 51st state. Shouldn't be all that hard - after all - there are no guns there and the people are mostly sheep. Give 'em the Texas constitution for their state constitution and maybe after a generation or so the Brits will have grown back a pair. Mzybe not a steel pair - maybe only brass pair but at least they'll have a chance at becoming unemasculated.

[removes tongue from cheek]
 
Ahh ... makes perfect sense ... the "violence had already stopped" because the baseball bat was stopped by Mr. Kirk's face ... now had he shot the guy after the bat was in motion before the it had hit his face then he'd be in the clear?



Every time I read one of these stories I want to invade England and liberate the poor souls trapped in that totalitarian police state

No no, if he had shot the guy BEFORE the bat hit him, he would be a murderer for acting violently without being provoked :rolleyes:
 
Something's fishy here ... a baseball bat in England? I can understand a polo mallet or a cricket bat or a croquet mallet, but baseball?

Anyway, that'll teach the kid to bring a baseball bat to a harpoon fight.
 
Well - we could always invade the UK and make them the 51st state.

THAT would be the mother of all mistakes, werewolf!

Just think about the heinously anti-gun senators and representatives the Limeys would send to Washington DC. :what: :barf:

No, better let them rot in their own decadence. The Brits are beyond help....... :banghead:
 
If I attacked the Prosecuter and popped his with a baseball bat, then stopped. Waited a few minutes let him regain his sense then did it again a few more time. Would he charge me with multple times for assualt?
 
You're all jumping the gun a little aren't you ? It says "the trial continues"....

Obviously the public prosecutor should not have charged the man, but let's wait to see what the jury decides. It seems a pretty clearcut case of self-defence. A not guilty verdict will make the public prosecutor less likely to bring charges next time.
 
Surprise, surprise. Agricola still hasn't shown up to defend the bad guy. I really do think he doesn't own any guns and is merely trolling L&P. :rolleyes:
 
Don't worry about agricola coming here, i have about 12,000 posts on his board,in the uk.

And don't live their. :D
 
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