FMJMIKE
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ERMA-Werke Model E M1 .22 LR Self-Loading Rimfire Rifle
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blkbird513
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E M1 dated 1966
I located this post while researching an ERMA-Werke Mod Em1 I found at local gun shop. It's marked:
Proof marked on top of receiver as: Nitro Proof, Munich, Date code 66
Left receiver wall has: 01088 Mod E M1 .22 ERMA-Werke Made in Germany
Nitro Proofs on Barrel and Bolt
NO import mark (Prior to '68?)
Left Barrel marked: cal. 22 long rifle
...Yes...I bought it...!!!
It has a well-used ,5 rd. clip, Weaver Scope but no rear sight.
From what I'm reading, this was imported by L.A. Distributors but has no marks as it came in before 1968?
It's seen some (considerable?) use as the lower receiver where it's exposed shows wear as well as the clip and charging handle. The stock has a few minor scratches but the finish is beautiful as is the blueing on the barrel. The link which Phoenix mentions shows only two others dated '66. I sent the info there also.
Time for a good cleaning and then to the range to see if it shoots as well as everyone says.
I'll post pictures as soon as I figure out how to perform that particular task.
This is a tremendous source of info...
Thanks to ALL...!!!
JOHNC
I located this post while researching an ERMA-Werke Mod Em1 I found at local gun shop. It's marked:
Proof marked on top of receiver as: Nitro Proof, Munich, Date code 66
Left receiver wall has: 01088 Mod E M1 .22 ERMA-Werke Made in Germany
Nitro Proofs on Barrel and Bolt
NO import mark (Prior to '68?)
Left Barrel marked: cal. 22 long rifle
...Yes...I bought it...!!!
It has a well-used ,5 rd. clip, Weaver Scope but no rear sight.
From what I'm reading, this was imported by L.A. Distributors but has no marks as it came in before 1968?
It's seen some (considerable?) use as the lower receiver where it's exposed shows wear as well as the clip and charging handle. The stock has a few minor scratches but the finish is beautiful as is the blueing on the barrel. The link which Phoenix mentions shows only two others dated '66. I sent the info there also.
Time for a good cleaning and then to the range to see if it shoots as well as everyone says.
I'll post pictures as soon as I figure out how to perform that particular task.
This is a tremendous source of info...
Thanks to ALL...!!!
JOHNC
ERMA-Werke info
Gents,
Here's a link to an excellent resource for the ERMA-Werke .22s.:
http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_em1.html
I'm lucky enough to have one of the .22WMR models and two Iver Johnson import .22LR models.
Gents,
Here's a link to an excellent resource for the ERMA-Werke .22s.:
http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_em1.html
I'm lucky enough to have one of the .22WMR models and two Iver Johnson import .22LR models.
Modle E. M1 22 Erma-Werke
I just purchased a Erma-Werke M1-22. I'd like to know more about this rifle and I anyone has instructions on how to disassemble it. I'd like to have this information so I can take it apart to clean it.
Also this rifle has all three symbols stamped on it. It's serial number is 53056 and also has LA Distr. New York stamped on top of the receiver.
I've shot about 100 rounds and have had no problems. I'd also like to put a scope on it. How do I do that without casuing problems?
Thanks for the help.
RE
I just purchased a Erma-Werke M1-22. I'd like to know more about this rifle and I anyone has instructions on how to disassemble it. I'd like to have this information so I can take it apart to clean it.
Also this rifle has all three symbols stamped on it. It's serial number is 53056 and also has LA Distr. New York stamped on top of the receiver.
I've shot about 100 rounds and have had no problems. I'd also like to put a scope on it. How do I do that without casuing problems?
Thanks for the help.
RE
erma werke .22 needs parts
hi everyonw. I was given a erma werke .22 m1 garand from my grande father, but it is missing parts. Does anyone know where i can get some parts, i have tried all around where i am from but no one can get anything for it for me to get this .22 operational again. anyone has any advise, please message me. Thanks everyone for there time, also if anyone has any advise on this unit i would love to hear it.. thanks again
hi everyonw. I was given a erma werke .22 m1 garand from my grande father, but it is missing parts. Does anyone know where i can get some parts, i have tried all around where i am from but no one can get anything for it for me to get this .22 operational again. anyone has any advise, please message me. Thanks everyone for there time, also if anyone has any advise on this unit i would love to hear it.. thanks again
Dark Skies
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You could try this chap in the UK. He's something of an Erma specialist.
http://www.itlshootingsupplies.co.uk/page15.htm
http://www.itlshootingsupplies.co.uk/page15.htm
Hi All,
New here on the forum.
I'm in Ireland and have just bought an Erma EM1.Year of manufacture is 1980.
I have yet to get it out for a shot as I was waiting on rear sights which have just arrived. I'll let you know how I get on. I'm really looking forward to it.
The previous owner had mounted a scope and removed the rear sights which were then lost. This seems a typical problem that crosses international boundaries....
I wanted to get a set of Tech Sights as shown on the M1 carbine site but they wont ship outside the US so I got a set of originals for eur 88.00 from here:
http://www.asamnet.de/~ehrenred/ersatzt/em1.htm
The sight retaining screw is tiny. It only has about 3 spirals of thread so I intend to use a glue or thread lock to prevent loss as I can see it working loose. I'm lucky in that the thread hole in the receiver hasn't been stripped.
I also bought a 10 rd mag from them but its not quite like the standard one that comes with the rifle. Basically it looks like the inside bullet holding part of the standard mag with about a 1 inch band of the mag cover around it to engage the mag retaining mechanism. So its a bit odd looking.
I intend to get a new slide and springs from ITL and possibly a new mag if CDS won't change the one they sent me.
ITL have both 10 and 15 round mags.
Tucson173: if you still have the Erma I recommend using high mounts to clear the iron sights. I have a set of high mounts on a Krico .22 that also allow me to use the open sights.
I have a question if any one can answer: how can I release the spring (ie uncock the gun) without squeezing the trigger and putting wear on the firing pin by it striking the edge of the breech?
The manual says to remove the mag when its cocked but the bolt still flies forward at speed when I do this. The mag also needs a hell of a pull to get it out.
Frank
New here on the forum.
I'm in Ireland and have just bought an Erma EM1.Year of manufacture is 1980.
I have yet to get it out for a shot as I was waiting on rear sights which have just arrived. I'll let you know how I get on. I'm really looking forward to it.
The previous owner had mounted a scope and removed the rear sights which were then lost. This seems a typical problem that crosses international boundaries....
I wanted to get a set of Tech Sights as shown on the M1 carbine site but they wont ship outside the US so I got a set of originals for eur 88.00 from here:
http://www.asamnet.de/~ehrenred/ersatzt/em1.htm
The sight retaining screw is tiny. It only has about 3 spirals of thread so I intend to use a glue or thread lock to prevent loss as I can see it working loose. I'm lucky in that the thread hole in the receiver hasn't been stripped.
I also bought a 10 rd mag from them but its not quite like the standard one that comes with the rifle. Basically it looks like the inside bullet holding part of the standard mag with about a 1 inch band of the mag cover around it to engage the mag retaining mechanism. So its a bit odd looking.
I intend to get a new slide and springs from ITL and possibly a new mag if CDS won't change the one they sent me.
ITL have both 10 and 15 round mags.
Tucson173: if you still have the Erma I recommend using high mounts to clear the iron sights. I have a set of high mounts on a Krico .22 that also allow me to use the open sights.
I have a question if any one can answer: how can I release the spring (ie uncock the gun) without squeezing the trigger and putting wear on the firing pin by it striking the edge of the breech?
The manual says to remove the mag when its cocked but the bolt still flies forward at speed when I do this. The mag also needs a hell of a pull to get it out.
Frank
Unfortunately, you can't really de-cock the action without pulling the trigger- the best that can be managed (and I wouldn't bother) is place something expendable like a ballpoint pen in the small gap behind the breechbolt and then fire, releasing the striker block. Personally, I wouldn't bother worrying, but that's my choice.
Magazines do tend to fit tightly, but you'll notice that mis-feeds in this rifle are particularly annoying, as there's no real sort of feed ramp or anything, and it's quite easy to have a cartridge get turned about instead of loading correctly, so the less variation in feed angle, the better.
Have fun with your rifle, and I hope it serves you well! Remember to try several varieties of ammunition, they do tend to be picky.
Magazines do tend to fit tightly, but you'll notice that mis-feeds in this rifle are particularly annoying, as there's no real sort of feed ramp or anything, and it's quite easy to have a cartridge get turned about instead of loading correctly, so the less variation in feed angle, the better.
Have fun with your rifle, and I hope it serves you well! Remember to try several varieties of ammunition, they do tend to be picky.
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Hi All,
I finally got the Erma out for a shoot today. It was a bit windy but I managed to get the new original back sight zeroed in okay though I think I would still prefer to have Tech Sight replacement.
I have had problems with the feed: the rounds are not being chambered properly. The issue seems to lie with the bolt not closing fully, it occasionally stops about 1/2'' to 1/4'' from fully closed so I had to tap the slide handle forward.
When she got going she worked just fine but I'd say I got no more than 5 rounds off in a row before a misfeed occurred. I fired off about 150 rounds, a mix of Eley practice, Federal high velocity and CCI stingers. The problem occured with them all.
I was shooting in an old sand quarry so taking the rifle apart on the spot was not an option. When I got home I removed the receiver and immediately spotted the guide rails on the slide are broken and another piece of spring about 1 1/2'' long had been added on the slide rod so a previous owner has had problems with this. A new slide and spring from ITL are on the shopping list. Hopefully this will cure the feed problems. I'll let you know.
I'm very grateful to the guys who run the M1carbineinc site as their info on this gun and its problems are invaluable. As ever I'm amazed that people take the time and effort to put info up on the net to help others.
Frank
I finally got the Erma out for a shoot today. It was a bit windy but I managed to get the new original back sight zeroed in okay though I think I would still prefer to have Tech Sight replacement.
I have had problems with the feed: the rounds are not being chambered properly. The issue seems to lie with the bolt not closing fully, it occasionally stops about 1/2'' to 1/4'' from fully closed so I had to tap the slide handle forward.
When she got going she worked just fine but I'd say I got no more than 5 rounds off in a row before a misfeed occurred. I fired off about 150 rounds, a mix of Eley practice, Federal high velocity and CCI stingers. The problem occured with them all.
I was shooting in an old sand quarry so taking the rifle apart on the spot was not an option. When I got home I removed the receiver and immediately spotted the guide rails on the slide are broken and another piece of spring about 1 1/2'' long had been added on the slide rod so a previous owner has had problems with this. A new slide and spring from ITL are on the shopping list. Hopefully this will cure the feed problems. I'll let you know.
I'm very grateful to the guys who run the M1carbineinc site as their info on this gun and its problems are invaluable. As ever I'm amazed that people take the time and effort to put info up on the net to help others.
Frank
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