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NYPD Installs "Sky Watch" In Harlem Neighborhood


The NYPD has installed a patrol tower in a Harlem neighborhood in an effort to cut crime in the high-risk neighborhood.

The two-story booth tower, called Sky Watch, gives the officer sitting inside a better vantage point from which to monitor the area. Officers in the booth have access to a spotlight, sensors, and four cameras. The tower is portable and can be moved to the areas that need it most.

Residents in Harlem say they like the idea, though some wonder if the appearance of Sky Watch has anything to do with the two new luxury condos built on a nearby corner.

"There was crime around here before and they never had it. Now all these expensive buildings, it's true,” said one area resident. “But actually it's good though, because then I used to see a lot of crowd here and sometimes I was scared to pass here, but guess what, that doesn't happen anymore. It’s a kind of deterrence and it's good."

Police say the Harlem tower was placed there to combat a rise in murders.

Sky Watch has also been tested in Crown Heights in Brooklyn where it reduced crime. Police are hoping to have three more towers soon.



I dont know what to say here, all thats missing is a couple of pintle mounted machine guns. Big Brother will watch you all the time and you will be safe.:barf: :barf:
 
What's next, a fence around the neighborhood with checkpoints for people going in or out?

What happens to the people under the eye of the tower when they refuse to show ID?

This is sick!
 
Those towers are pretty common in the area of Plano where I live. Not too sure how effective they are at stopping crime, though I bet they're not bad at shunting it.
 
Ah, excellent, prison techniques to properly herd the sheeple. As long as it saves just one life. How about making everyone carry something that can be scanned from the tower at a distance. Then a few years down the road you can make it a crime not to carry it, then a few years later require certain people to be required to have implants to hold certain jobs, or be released from prisons. A few years after that you can say it is a success and pass laws for everyone to be required to have scannable chips installed.
As long as it saves one life!
That would really help police insure everyone was accountable! Solve crimes and make us all safer.
Eventualy you can just install check points that scan the identiy of everyone moving about the city without ever having to bother the sheeple by asking for ID or interupting thier day. Oh the future looks so bright!
 
If it were really that much of a deterrant to crime, it would be everywhere. It's not. Using my logic, that means it doesn't work.

Sure, post an armed guard above every intersection in the country and there would probably be no crime. There would also be no love, sex, art or freedom of speech. Those that made the rules would rule us.

I'll take my chances. At least here in the free states we can legally defend ourselves.
 
Meh.

Did anybody think police weren't people-watching before? It's been my impression that that's most of the job when they're walking beats in a city. So now they'll watch from the second story. Big deal.

Either you have cops in public watching what the public does or you don't. How high up they stand is not a big deal to me.

I am interested in what equipment they lump in under the catch-all "sensors," though.
 
curious

isn't it that all the folks from calif and points west have "informed" opinions about how "they would do it" in a neighborhood they wouldn't visit if they were handing out winning lotto tickets on that corner. and thats in daylight much less after dark
 
It's a great idea as it moves the crime from one area to another but does little to cut overall crime as the system fails in the "punishment" phase. If the courts locked up all the persons convicted 1/3 of the population of NYC would be in jail.

Proud of being born and raised in the Bronx and happy to be else where.
 
Okay, so the idea I'm getting from some of these replies is that there is something sinister about a police presence in a high crime area.

Is the purpose of a police force to enforce the law and apprehend criminals or not? Is deterring street crime a good thing or not? How is a "watch tower" somehow a violation of civil rights, but a cop on the beat or in a patrol car not? Because it's more effective? If I live in a high crime neighborhood, I shouldn't want police watching my street as I make my way to and from the bus stop?

What's up with this?

K
 
Okay, so the idea I'm getting from some of these replies is that there is something sinister about a police presence in a high crime area.
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I think what it shows is how things have changed in this country. At one time
we didn't need "watch towers" in neighborhoods, blast barriers around buildings
(even if they are in the form of planters and thick walls with hedges on top), and
gated communities.
 
Whoa, some pretty fascinating comments on the Crown Heights page:

sholom ber wrote:
we need one like this on every stret corner in the shcnuna.

Will something put fear of the law into these young spupid hate filled shvartzes?
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shaka saladin shakur wrote:
This new step is the first in a new wave of martial law
as we all know we the african and latino people live in an all out police state. This tower is the same tower that we see in the yards of prisons where we are too often gunned down ( EG.., The late great General GEORGE JACKSON ) We must not sit on the side and allow this to go down we can no longer be a people
who allow the master to openly abuse us we must organize and resist .If this unit is for the purpose of crime fighting then why is it not posted in front of the white house where the largest criminal resides.
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[NOTE: George Jackson was the founder of the Black Guerilla Family (Maxist prison .org related to the Black Panthers). Lots of people died in gruesome ways during his escape attempts, several of which were directly aided by "activist-lawyers". Read the Wiki article if you have a strong stomach: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Jackson_(Black_Panther) ]


Burn the neighborhood down & start again wrote:
We need to institute curfews. Get everyone off the street at sunset. Since some grown adults in the community cannot take care of themselves using common sense (as in not walking alone at night when you know you are an easy target) and others think that once it becomes dark that means it is time to prey on anyone they can.

Keep everyone off the street at night, and the problem is solved.

Give the cop in the booth a sh*tgun filled with beanbag rounds to fire upo anyone who is out there after dark
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You can feel the love.

Glad I live in Austin. The New Yorkers I meet insist that NYC is absolutely the most cultured, most enlightened, most efficient, most entertaining and just generally best city in the entire universe.


-MV
 
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Burn the neighborhood down & start again wrote:
We need to institute curfews. Get everyone off the street at sunset. Since some grown adults in the community cannot take care of themselves using common sense (as in not walking alone at night when you know you are an easy target) and others think that once it becomes dark that means it is time to prey on anyone they can.

Keep everyone off the street at night, and the problem is solved.

Give the cop in the booth a shotgun filled with beanbag rounds to fire upo anyone who is out there after dark.
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:uhoh:

Here is my response...

How about we let people carry concealed handguns instead of forcing them to submit to a curfew? People should not be forced to walk with someone else afterdark.

Why punish the victim instead of the criminal?

Ask yourselves why Howard Stern, Robert DeNiro, Bill Imus, and other wealthy influential people are alowed to carry a concealed weapon while regular people are not?
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Wolfman, as to putting a fence around the perimeter and requiing ID, they already have those. They're called "Gated Communities."
 
Can't wait until a couple of enterprising urban reformers hook a cable up to this mobile tower and takes it for a little spin (or topple). Hate to be the guy caught in this tree when it comes crashing down.

Funny how whenever there's a call for better law enforcement they always talk about more cops on the street. They never talk about more courtrooms, judges, prosecutors and more prisons. You can have an army of cops on the street and if the prisons have revolving doors on them what good will come of it?
 
bearmgc said:
Wolfman, as to putting a fence around the perimeter and requiing ID, they already have those. They're called "Gated Communities."
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I had a friend that lived in a gated community. Then he got better and they let him out. :neener:
 
We have one of those...

towers in the parking lot of the Navy Exchange here at Pearl Harbor. Being able to better scan a huge parking lot seems to be a good use for this type of equipment. I've also seen it deployed during 4th of July festivals, lots of open area, lots of people. Seems like a good way to get the security folks up where they can see what is going on in areas where no natural elevations exist.

I'm not sure how well it would work on a city street though with lots of buildings that are taller than it. Seems that pulling someone around a corner to be out of sight would be quite easy. In the places I've seen it deployed, it was easily the tallest thing for quite some distance.

As far as the liberty connected aspects...I'm not sure having police deployed out on (or slightly above) the streets they are supposed to be patrolling is a bad thing. I would like a bit more information those on exactly what constitutes a "sensor" for this piece of equipment.

migoi
 
I think police do a necessary duty, I however see things like this the states response to the "When we are disarmed we are prey to criminals" argument. It won't stop crime, but by inching closer and closer to prison like control they can make you think it is for the best. While at the same time they can give the impression that since they are everywhere watching everything they can keep you safe. It simply makes the criminal blend in better, instead of dressing talking and acting like a duck, he acts like you until you go around a corner. It makes for more sophisticated criminals while allowing the government to more easily implement whatever modification to your rights they wish. Yet for your safety your not allowed any weapon ( as you can see by checking the UK or Australia they never stop at guns once they are banned, next it is knives, then sticks (makeshift baton/club), glass etc
Everyone is forced into the dark ages except for the agents of the state.

Supporting the spending of your taxes on such things when you could instead support the reduction of taxes and the increase of your rights by allowing people to take care of themselves is silly. Government can become corrupt, with long term agendas, but you and the person that comes to your rescue who is also legaly armed care about the immediate outcome if you become a victim.

Essentialy you have most people a cop, without having to pay for anything. You still need real police for proper investigations, response to large scale problems, etc but no longer for deterance, or protection in public areas.
 
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