ever changing hunting grounds

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The areas I hunt for white tail here in New York are private property but not mine. Every year I lose a property due to it being sold or owner decided to start back up hunting or what ever. The other issue I have run into lately has been farmers fencing in orchards to keep the deer out. Now my go to spot got logged and they made a huge mess and now the deer have started moving close to the rd on one side of the property and near back yards on the other. It seems like im just getting things figured out and having some luck then the things change and im SOL. Anyone else deal with these struggles?
 
Gun season on state land is like ww3 and im not interested in playing dodge ball with slugs so ill stick to the private land. I do a fair amount of scouting (not as much as I'd like) but every yr its like starting over. But on the plus side we are always getting new land to hunt, some are flops but we are in the process of getting a spot that we have seen 8 bucks running together from a 14pt to a few basket rack 8s
 
In central Pennsylvania the problem is older owners selling land.The new owners have a different attitude about allowing the previous hunters on the land.Some are reserving the hunting for their family and friends and others are anti-hunting.I have had to change areas a few times.
 
Heres the "glass is half full" perspective: you have the chance to become a much more versatile hunter than those who hunt the same piece of ground year after year. You are constantly having to learn new things, and adapt your strategies to fit...in the end that is a great education to receive.
 
I have to agree. It's the challenge of beating Mother Nature at her game. Deer were here. Now the trees are gone. Where did the deer go? Where are they bedding now? What times are they moving? It's a constant learning curve and personally, the more difficult the challenge, the sweeter the success. The logger just tipped the scales in the deer's favor a little. Tip it back to yours.
 
It's the same no matter where you live unless you own a large piece of land. Even then you may have trouble with your neighbors and your relatives. I have found two areas that have helped me limit the competition. Most hunters are lazy in that they don't get very far from their truck, and you can use this to your advantage by finding rougher land that is harder to access. Also, I never miss a chance to hunt in really bad weather because other hunters are snug at home watching football. You can also increase your chances by hunting solo, because the more people that are involved the more complicated the situation gets.
 
Insisting on hunting private land and relying on the generosity of others because you do not personally own any hunting property will, in today's world, always be a crap shoot. Appreciate and enjoy what you have today, because tomorrow, odds are it may be gone. Over the half century I've been hunting, I've had the privilege to hunt some beautiful areas that did not belong to me. Very few of those opportunities lasted for more than a few years for the exact reasons you stated. Comes with the territory. I've found that by endearing the landowner to you, the odds the privilege will continue goes up, but does not guarantee it. For the privilege of hunting wild turkeys on private land, I do odds jobs and help out with farm work on the off season for the landowners. After 30 years of doing this, the children of one of the original landowners, still saves me a week during the season, even tho their dad has been gone for a decade. Taking their grandson along a few years back to bag his first bird, sweetened the deal. I offer share the bounty of any game I harvest and in dry years, I give gift certificates for a good restaurant in town, or send a box of cheese and sausage at Christmas. That cost is little compared to the cost of taxes and fences by the landowner. I am also lucky to have public land around me. While opening day of any season brings out the hoards of fair weather hunters, I've found that by hunting nasty weather and later in the season, while not many folks are out there, the game is. There's a reason good hunting land has become so expensive and has priced many of us outta the game. Part of the challenge of the hunt is to overcome this and enjoy with what you have.

While the land you hunted that was logged may seem like a mess now and seems to have driven the deer away, will at some point in the near future, be a deer magnet. Just sayin'.
 
That go to spot that was logged may turn into a honey hole again in a couple of years if left alone. The deer have to adapt to their environment and you have to do the same. Sounds like maybe that logging will have created new travel corridors that you can take advantage of.
 
I have been out cutting the trails open again but after 2days on 1 trail and not seeing a hole yet now the blood suckers will carry you away. The area is just a pass thru for them from the thicket just across the property line to a soy bean field on other side. It makes it easy to know when the deer will be coming thru.
 
Wolfgang, not sure where in NY you are, but my experience in the southern zone was similar on public land, it seemed like a civil war reenactment with the volley of fire on opening day.

NY has a wealth of public land with little hunting pressure in the Adirondacks if you don't mind hiking in a few miles. Hunting some public land in the wilderness areas like cranberry or five ponds I have rarely seen another hunter. Deer densities are less, but lots of big bodied deer and I bet some of the bucks die of old age in there.
 
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The year after a place has been logged it's typically the best deer hunting spot you'll ever see. Find somewhere to go this year but HANG ON TO THAT SPOT FOR NEXT YEAR! If you can.
 
Too bad your in NY. Here in my state you can walk for days and never see another person, but lots of quality hunting, that is unless your down south, which is peppered with illegals.

GS
 
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