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"The Wicked Witch of the West"?

Puh-leaze. I'm glad to see the Republican Lie Machine is well oiled and nauseating as ever.
 
I'd rather have a Republican Lie Machine that has, during their hold of the House, never passed a single firearms ban - than the Honest Democrats, who attack my RKBA on every single opportunity.
 
If lies are better than the truth, I suppose you are correct. I much prefer Mill and Jefferson to Stalin and Mao, so I'll stick with people who tell the truth no matter which totem - donkey or elephant - they bow to.
 
I'd rather have a Republican Lie Machine that has, during their hold of the House, never passed a single firearms ban - than the Honest Democrats, who attack my RKBA on every single opportunity.
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The lesser of two evils crowd is getting absurd. Come on people....
 
I would love to see someone else get the position as speaker, however I dont beileve that that will happen. Its a done deal.

For those who think she (and her ilk) are a good thing for the county, pls elaborate on your position. I can't wait to see that rational... :rolleyes:
 
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Puh-leaze. I'm glad to see the Republican Lie Machine is well oiled and nauseating as ever
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Clarify, please? What is the lie? Is she not a dedicated anti? Will she not have the legislative control referred to?
 
And that's why Gun Owners of America is telling every Representative in Congress that GOA will be rating the vote for Speaker on January 4. A vote in favor of Nancy Pelosi will be counted as an ANTI-GUN vote. A vote for Pelosi will be considered as a vote for gun control.
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If there were any doubt as to why GOA's ratings are 100% partisan, you need look no further. Guess what? Next year every Democrat will have a lower ranking than every republican. Wonder why?

Now ask me why GOA has no credibility with a lot of gun owners.
 
They're both slimeballs and liars. Abolish the professional politicians and watch the problem go away.
 
Oh, ferchrissake. Go back to Democratic Underground.

The truth is that we all have to hold our collective noses when we vote. Unless, of course, you're one of the "true believers," who know what's good for everyone else.
 
That's a spurious charge, Malone. Pelosi isn't some passive anti-gun vote. She's a well-documented, no-holds-barred gun grabber. I think GOA would be sorely remiss not to sound the alarums.

I suspect that on 5 January we'll find that not every pachyderm voted against her - their "anti-gun votes" will be duly recorded by GOA. I also suspect not everyone in the donkey party is all that enamored of her; likewise, their "pro-gun votes" will also be duly recorded. At least GOA is up front about what will hurt/help any individual politico as far as this one organization is concerned.
 
Hey, I'm not going to contribute to this anti-RKBA thread. It is obvious the 3rd party defeatists have hijacked it.



I'll be back in the discussion when the Democrats hand you a nice juicy gun ban to ask you how well the theory of ousting the Republicans worked.


Have a nice day.
 
That's a spurious charge, Malone. Pelosi isn't some passive anti-gun vote. She's a well-documented, no-holds-barred gun grabber. I think GOA would be sorely remiss not to sound the alarums.

I suspect that on 5 January we'll find that not every pachyderm voted against her - their "anti-gun votes" will be duly recorded by GOA. I also suspect not everyone in the donkey party is all that enamored of her; likewise, their "pro-gun votes" will also be duly recorded. At least GOA is up front about what will hurt/help any individual politico as far as this one organization is concerned.
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I'm afraid you don't understand very well how the Congress works. Pelosi has worked her way up and politicked her way into the position of Democrat leader. Now the Congress will have a vote on who will be Speaker of the House. Dems will vote for their leader, and Reps will vote for theirs. That's how the Speaker is selected. It's how all officers in the House and Senate are selected. Every Dem will vote for their leader, or risk having a Rep Speaker. That's just how the system is set up.

Now every single Dem will have a vote against them in GOA's grading sheet. Even sterling RKBA supporters like Gene Taylor, who happens to be my Congressman, so I know what I'm talking about.

Which just is just another reason GOA's grading sheet is not worth reading.
 
I'd rather have a Republican Lie Machine that has, during their hold of the House, never passed a single firearms ban
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I don't like Dem politicians either... the reason I don't like Republicans is that they ARE Dems that use libertarian rhetoric for a month before each election (except for Ron Paul, OK...). But the Republican Administration is the one that finally, officially disarmed the airline pilots the summer before 9-11, then fought to this day (mostly successfully) to keep them from re-arming. They're not our friends.
 
Quote:I don't like Dem politicians either... the reason I don't like Republicans is that they ARE Dems that use libertarian rhetoric for a month before each election (except for Ron Paul, OK...). But the Republican Administration is the one that finally, officially disarmed the airline pilots the summer before 9-11, then fought to this day (mostly successfully) to keep them from re-arming. They're not our friends.End Quote...

You are not entirely correct on this; my brother is an airline pilot and said it is the FAA and the airlines that screwed it up for pilots…
Mineta (transportation secretary) was a Clinton cabinet member holdover (anti-gun)

The bottom line is that the FAA adopted a rule back in 1987 that stopped pilots from boarding airplanes with guns, after some idiot broke into the cockpit murdered the pilots and crashed the plane…This was a changing tide since the Cuban missile crisis when pilots could be armed under FAA rules…The real culprit besides the FAA were the airlines themselves…

They never in all the years since the Cuban missile crisis applied to put the pilots through the courses necessary for the pilots to be armed…
A lot of people screwing up including pilots themselves (drinking violations, etc.)

Most pilots and some security experts say that if the airlines had taken advantage of the program that it would have never been removed…

This was a bureaucratic nightmare as are most things that the government involves itself in…
The head of the Center for the Study of Crime, Randall N. Herrst – an attorney by trade who said his arguments have been used successfully in anti-gun control cases – disagrees with the government's intention of placing sky marshals on each flight. He says arming pilots would be a better, more cost-effective and faster plan to implement.
"At 35,000 flights a day, even if some marshals can cover two round trips per day on short routes, we will still need 90,000 sky marshals if we want at least two on each flight," taking into account days off, vacations and sick days, he said.
He agreed that "there are no guarantees" armed pilots would have prevented the Sept. 11 hijackings. But he added: "That is the only course of action that could have stopped the attacks."
Herrst said arming pilots would amount to a military principle known as "defense in depth."
"If you have a choice," he says, "you never depend on a single line of defense – you always have a second, third and fourth line as well."
He is also suspicious that despite Sept. 11, lawmakers, bureaucrats and the White House are still dragging their feet over arming pilots.
"The reasons must be purely political," he told WND. "[But] if there is another major round of hijackings, it will probably bankrupt the entire U.S. airline industry."
"People are so obsessed with banning guns that they are willing to sacrifice human lives and a huge portion of our economy to political correctness," he added.
 
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