Explanation of why are the Poles the most disarmed nation in Europe even 30 years after the fall of

[Snejdarek]

Interview – Tomasz W. Stępień: Poles still believe the communist indoctrination that only criminals need guns


"I think that Poles has been heavily indoctrinated by communists, when the propaganda was saying that only criminals have guns. And the state. Hunting was allowed for a narrow number of people, and a result common view of average Pole is “why do you need a gun?”. Which for me, is a horror came true. Why do I need to prove to anyone what I own? Is anyone asking me how many cars and what kind can they own? Nope. And I am not interested. So it boils down to the fact hat majority of Poles has a problem with understanding civil liberties."

 

[Sistema1927]

Unfortunately, many people need to grow into freedom. It is often difficult to leave behind the chains of slavery.

 

[Zoogster]

My understanding is under the Nazis the poles became a much more homogeneous population as the Nazis brutally killed a lot of the population leaving only a very mainstream and similar population that fit their racial views.
While the Soviets slaughtered a lot of the former Polish leadership and took over.

As a result of being so Homogenous and having a lot of the older political bickering...silenced, they became one of the lowest crime and lowest conflict societies in Europe too.
That it has not been until more recent EU quota based immigration and refugee groups that crime has started to exist at a decent level again.

That is important as the backdrop of why they feel less concerned with lethal self protection. It has been decades since they have felt much risk.

 

[Deltaboy1984]

Sad very Sad!

 

[BSA1]

This really surprises me. I figured that having been attacked on both sides and their brutal treatment Polish citizens would be a bit paranoid and arming themselves to make the next invasion more costly to the attacker.

Poland as a nation though is taking it's NATO commitment seriously.

 

[40-82]

So I met this woman years ago, a psychiatric nurse in eastern Virginia, who had written a book about her childhood in Poland. She had pictures of her family estate as it was in '39 on the Vistula in central Poland. Boar heads mounted, guns everywhere. Her brothers, her father, were hunters, army officers. As you know, soon afterwards, the Russians rolled in from the east, the Germans from the west.

All the men in her family were killed, died fighting. The Germans had her rounded up to go to a concentration camp. Being from the nobility, she couldn't live. A young German soldier whispered, "Run."

She did.

They all fired and missed. I'm going to guess had the target been an armed antagonist they wouldn't have.

She hid out in a convent. While there, she met a fighter pilot from New Zealand. Why and how he got there, she never learned. She fell in love.

The thing, though, that put her off with this young pilot that she could never understand was that every night, he went out. He killed Germans.

She tried to reason with him. "You're not going to change the course of the war. Why?"

"They're Germans."

Make no mistake. There were men in Poland. Natural geographic disadvantages, errors in leadership, cost them. Maybe there are a few left.

 

[entropy]

Read their history. They have been occupied and controlled throughout most of their history. Even when they had their own kingdom, either Russia or Prussia controlled it. Poniatowski (Stanislaus Agustus II) was Catherine the Great's toy boy; she and Frederick the Great tussled for control of him while the Polish Diet quietly obeyed whomever has acendency at the given moment. Polish history is full of daring-do and dashing officers as much as any other European country, but as 40-82 said:

Natural geographic disadvantages, errors in leadership, cost them.

I hope they can learn form the past and develop the potential that is there.

 

[Odd Job]

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