Fairfax, VA 11/24 - Protesteasyguns.com counter protest

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They are staging a "lie down" protest supposedly in honor of the 32 VT victims, as if somehow closing the gun show loophole and renewing the AWB would have stopped Cho and is a good way to honor those who died. (nevermind that he bought his guns from a gun store and passed the background check). I sent a friendly email asking for the time and they said it would be posted on the website as soon as it was finalized.

Their protest is at Fairfax Corner which is a large outdoor shopping/movie/restaurant center off Monument Drive just to the south of Fair Oaks Mall on the other side of 66. (very near the NRA HQ, ironically)

I am planning to attend with a large "guns save lives" sign. I believe they are public streets and therefore I could not be asked to leave so long as I am acting peacefully.

If anybody would like to join me that would be great. Please either post here or email me at benminer AT yahoo DOT com and I would be happy to coordinate.
 
Looming Large for Activism

I'll try to attend.

But I need to know if Fairfax County has any ordinances against looming http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/5356.html :evil:

Local newsrag accuses me of "looming" :what:

last few pages have video of the alleged "loomimg" please be kind to me :neener:

I'd hate to get busted for what I thought was exercising my 1A rights only to find out my method was contrary to local law.

stay safe.

skidmark
 
Looming? Appearing larger than you really are? I've been doing a lot of that lately; ate way too much leftover halloween candy...
 
zxcvbob - see this re: "looming"

Video collage has been uploaded to Youtube and available here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0aX39Lae59c

Of note: All the press flocked to PVC to interview him, and completely ignored the protest speakers until they started lying on the ground! Hahahahaha! It's hard to conduct interviews while on your back playing dead.





nakedshoplifter

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The only confrontation I saw during the lay-down was one of the MMM's told me I could not stand at the end of their line, and said I was trespassing. I assured her that I would move to make room for any of their group who wanted to lay down where I was, and that seemed to cut her off before she could take it any further.

That is on the above video at the 6:10 mark.

stay safe.

skidmark
 
Crud! I'm flying into DCA on the day of the protest but I don't arrive until 4pm or so. :( Looks like I won't be able to make it. But if you guys are doing an after-party.... :D

Sometimes these company trips work out, sometimes they don't.
 
I'll be there if I can...if nothing else just to see what will happen and maybe get on one of these fancy youtube videos :D

Is this the kind of event we shouldn't OC at? Just curious, as I've never been to one of these "counter protests" before so I don't know the "rules" for us :)
 
I'm thinking of sending this to the people of that site:

I was wondering how you came to the conclusion that Cho Sung Hui was able to kill more people so quickly because he used 15 round magazines instead of 10 round magazines in his 9mm? 32 people died that day, which is more than what a 15 round magazine would have allowed. Though he used a second .22 handgun that had a 10 round magazine, how would it been any different if he had been limited to 10 rounds in the 9mm? I don't believe it would have ended any differently. I'm not saying that having an armed student or faculty member would have prevented this tragedy, but it MAY have ended the shooter's rampage earlier than it did. We will never know if it would have made a difference, but we all sure do know how well the complete ban on firearms at Virginia Tech worked that day.
My brother who is a VT student knew one of the victims that day.

The second issue I'd like to point out is the so-called "gun show loophole" that everyone talks about. It does not exist. Licensed dealers who attend and sell guns at a gun show must still complete the NICS and any local background checks when selling to an individual. I think the confusion over this matter is the private transactions which take place. I'm talking about if one private person sells to another private person. No background check is required for this, not only at a gun show but anywhere else in the state at any time, unless the state has further restrictions. There is no such thing as an "unlicensed dealer" because in order for someone to be considered a 'dealer' they must have a Federal Firearms License (FFL). Private persons selling guns at a gun show is no different than a person selling a gun to someone at their kitchen table or a friend at work.

I strongly disagree with your tactic of using the Virginia Tech tragedy to further your cause for gun control.

Thank you,

xxxxxx xxxxxxxx, George Mason University undergrad
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Personally, I won't be Open Carrying at this event. I encourage others to not Open Carry as well. That's going to draw too much negative publicity. When counter-protesting, it's necessary to be polite, and refute their idiocy with logic. You will win fans this way, and encourage fence-sitters to actually think about the topic.
 
I'd love to be there with a simple sign showing fish in a barrel - with the fish labled 'students' and the barrel labled 'VT'. Under this just one word

Why???
 
When counter-protesting, it's necessary to be polite, and refute their idiocy with logic. You will win fans this way, and encourage fence-sitters to actually think about the topic.
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And the other side of the coin is that open carrying in a peaceable manner is a more blatent demonstration that inanimate guns are not bad.

Or is it that it takes strong-willed folks to control those inherently rowdy guns?:neener:

It's really not about open vs. concealed carry at events like this. It's about presenting a clear message that MMM/Brady ideas will not protect anybody from a determined killer.

stay safe.

skidmark
 
Thanks for the advice guys. I don't know if I'll OC or not...depends on if I can get a decent leather holster before the day comes :D

(not likely ;) )
 
Crud! I'm flying into DCA on the day of the protest but I don't arrive until 4pm or so. Looks like I won't be able to make it. But if you guys are doing an after-party....

Sometimes these company trips work out, sometimes they don't.
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Hmm ... wonder what the folks getting off the planes would think of seeing some guy with an open-carried gun standing out in the pick-up area holding a sign for "Mr. Kaceridas"?

Might be a reason to have an after-party all by itself.

stay safe.

skidmark
 
***NEWS FLASH***

VAGUNINFO.COM has a new high definition camera which will be employed at the event. Stay tuned, I will post a link (on this thread) after the MMM lie-in where you can view the footage online in "near HD" quality or download the original HD source file (720p Windows Media Player file) to your computer. For an example of the quality head to the link below for a sample video I uploaded this weekend, or you can download the HD source file to your PC for a better viewing experience.

http://www.vimeo.com/371392

Skidmark, are you ready for people to see you in HD? :)

Also, we need to be thinking about breaking out our "arts and crafts" tools for some better, more effective signage.

NSL
www.vaguninfo.com
 
Marylanders - Don't forget that VCDL members have come up here to help us out too. I've met vcdl members at legislative hearings and at the protest outside of Realco Guns a few weeks ago.

VCDL has their S___t together and we might learn a thing or two from them.
 
If I wanted to join the VCDL, would it be better to do it online via paypal (I don't have an account there) or do it through the mail?
 
so I can join at the show? I'll do that if I can make it there then :)

Too bad you guys couldn't make it to the past few Dale city shows...the first time I've gone to those ones....but I love the bigness of the chantilly show...it's such a nice experiece even if I don't walk out with a gun (though every time I've gone to the chantilly show I've walked out with at least one gun and a few thousand rounds of ammo :D )
 
I'm glad to see there is some interest in this. According to their website it's at 3 PM. I know I'll be there. I've personally always been a fan of "GUN CONTROL IS PEOPLE CONTROL" as a protest sign.
 
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