"Favor" from Australian P.M.?

[fallingblock]

Shooters really are lucky to have a Prime Minister who cares about them in Australia
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Handgun buyback open to club shooters
Sean Parnell, State political correspondent 20Jun03 QLD

THE Howard Government is set to help shooting club members quit the sport by buying back their legal weapons under a significant expansion of Australia's handgun buyback.

The Courier-Mail has learned shooters will be paid for their handguns – legal or illegal – if they agree not to return to the sport for five years.

Justice Minister Chris Ellison said last night laws tightened as part
of the buyback would require sporting shooters to take part in at least six club-organised events each year, and four additional events for each different type of handgun they owned.

"The Prime Minister has proposed that sporting shooters who do not believe that they will be able to meet the minimum participation requirements . . . will be eligible to receive compensation if they choose to surrender all their handguns, even if those handguns are not prohibited," Senator Ellison said.
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A generous government doing us another favour.....?

 

[TarpleyG]

set to help shooting club members quit the sport

What a f---ing joke. They treat shooting as though it were an addiction like alcoholism or drug dependency. What a load of horse****! Makes me extra glad to live here.

GT

 

[Sergeant Bob]

A generous government doing us another favour.....?

I guess you could call it a "reach around".

 

[toro]

There is an old saying, "When the government Fears the people you have freedom, but when the people fear the government you have slavery." Davy Crockett once said that a good lawmaker is one that makes as few laws as possible. George Washington said "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

I just don't understand why other countries let these governments take their precious guns away. It is the only way to keep people powerful. Don't they realize you cannot trust anyone to protect you? You need to have guns to protect yourself. How can they expect police to get to their home when there is a crime being committed?

There was a murder of 10 people by one of the sons in the family. Years ago a few blocks from my home. He killed his mother, brother, sister-in-law and their seven children. No one heard anything. Police were called by the killer who was the son, he called several hours after the killing. It might have been nice if someone had a gun to protect themselves from this killer. It might have been nice if one of the children could have been saved. We were friends with one of the officers who carried out the bodies. He said it was the worst thing he ever had to do.

Mrs. Toro


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Jude 1:45
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the graces of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once know this, how that the lord, having saved the people out of the Land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believe not.

 

[fallingblock]

Yes, we're being "helped" to quit, all right!

These petty tyrants all have security forces armed to the teeth-
Their answer to citizen concerns about self-defense is:
"that's what the police are for"

I don't think the vast majority of Australians can even conceive of their government being a threat...they see it as more like a loving parent....doing what is 'best' for them:banghead:

 

[Esky]

It's no surprise, sadly

More pitiful gungrabbing, but let's face it. Australians have lost their liberty.

When I first came here (Australia) I was really impressed by the people, especially outback. Sturdy, self reliant, "can do" attitude. Didn't have to talk about it much, just did it. "No fear, mate."

But that was 30 years ago.

Now... I'm sad to say that Australians have been deprived of their heritage. The Australian Constitution is amazingly similar to the US Constitution, which it was partly modelled after, but--

1. it has no Bill of Rights; and

2. it is widely accepted in legal circles as being a "living" constitution. In other words, it has been (and is still being) interpreted by the High Court to mean a lot of things that it clearly doesn't say, which increasingly gives the central government great powers that it didn't originally have. Result: both states and individuals lose power and rights.

Big Brother is here.

I really do hope I'm wrong, but IMHO Australian subjects have very little chance of regaining those natural rights that Americans take for granted (and we should all guard those rights jealously, as it could happen to us too!)

It's been too long, but I'm coming home to the USA at last. (Well, if you can call the PRK part of the USA, that is.) Tried to make it for the 4th of July but I'm running late... but I'm sure that I can count on some THRs to shoot off their guns in my stead, for me to celebrate the 4th anyway!


Esky
who is sad and torn, to leave friends and family here who are forbidden to defend themselves, even though here in W. Aust we still can own guns & go shooting... in a very restricted way (even by PRK standards!)

 

[Cosmoline]

"It's been too long, but I'm coming home to the USA at last. "

Sorry to hear you've been driven out of Australia. I don't think anyone can blame you for leaving, though.

You should bypass California and move up to Alaska. Lots of people from New Zealand here, along with some Australians.

 

[fallingblock]

Good onya', Esky!

You are dead right about the unfortunate changes which are rapidly reducing Australians to peasants in what was a very free and open nation only a few years ago. :banghead:

I am hanging out here in The Territory to be around some of those sturdy, self-reliant folks you describe...but even out here the changes are obvious and forboding.

No written BoR = nothing to counter the arguments of social utility with

"Living Constitution" = 'let's delete/ignore whatever we want to make this a 'safer','better','more equal','fill-in-the-blank' nation'....


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"I really do hope I'm wrong, but IMHO Australian subjects have very little chance of regaining those natural rights that Americans take for granted (and we should all guard those rights jealously, as it could happen to us too!)"
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ABSOLUTELY!! Those 'rights' are gone forever here.

It will happen to the U.S. unless we can make a stand against the "living constitution' advocates....
(an evil Clinton comes to mind here )

Well, Esky, even the PRK is better than Oz....freedom is just across the state border there...

 

[Esky]

Wish you hadn't agreed...

Right, fallingblock, it's too bad you see it that way too... I keep hoping that someone will disagree & tell me why it isn't that bad.

BTW, I spent some happy days in the Alice, but whooo! Don't it get cold in the winter! Good luck in the Todd River Regatta, hope it don't rain & spoil the fun (can't have the river full, it ruins the yacht race!)

If ya get to the States, look me up! And I'll still be here at THR, of course... once I get settled.

Esky
presently packing... but boxes, not guns (but SOON!!!)

 

[Shweboner]

They treat shooting as though it were an addiction like alcoholism or drug dependency.

Well... for some of us... it is.



:banghead: have to .... stop...:banghead: spending so much....:banghead: money on guns:banghead:



~Brian

 

[fallingblock]

O.K., Esky.....

It's as bad as you think, but I won't say it

Cold!? In the Alice?

I've been wearing my jacket inside the house for the past week-
at least we're up on a hillside...those valley bottoms are frost pockets. I can see how the Aborigines survived for 30,000 years out here...they walk around barefoot and wearing t-shirts. Now that's climate adaptation for you!

I'll look you up as I pass through California to the U.S....one of these days

Shweboner:

You're right...
and because little Johnny Howard made me send my S&W 640's away, I have to buy a new centerfire revolver now, but only one of "less than .38 calibre"