Fbi Freeh Unloads On Clinton - 'closets Were Full Of Skeletons'

[jdkelly]

So basically, Freeh considered himself a martyr.---Lone Gunman

I guess you would have to ask him what he considered himself (if I missed his statement as such, sorry).

Respectfully,

jdkelly

 

[Mannlicher]

The only thing about this thread that kinda surprises me, is the number of folks here who are defending anything at all, that Bill Clinton did, or was. Yeah, that surprises me.

 

[cowboybobb693]

The scary thing is Billary is going to run in 2008 and Slick Willie will be 1st bimbo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not being a religious man, I'm doing a buttload of praying ( and voting)THAT doesn't come to pass. The thought strikes fear like I've never known before.

 

[Lone_Gunman]

I won't defend anything Clinton did, nor will I defend his lackeys like Freeh.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

The scary thing is Billary is going to run in 2008 and Slick Willie will be 1st bimbo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not being a religious man, I'm doing a buttload of praying ( and voting)THAT doesn't come to pass. The thought strikes fear like I've never known before.

Did she say she's running? Big mistake. She should wait until her husband's presidency is a little less fresh in people's minds. Say 40-50 years from now would be good. If she does run, I guarantee it's going to be the most nasty, filthy election year ever.

 

[cowboybobb693]

She has been making noise like she is going to test the waters. It will be a bloodbath. EVERYTHING that those two crooks have EVER done will be brought up. Since her party likes to bring out the dirt on everyone GW nominates, this will be bring a field day of mud slinging, who knows maybe some of Slick Willies "ghosts" will come out and both of them will fade away ( finally)

 

[DRZinn]

If Freeh really thought Clinton was that bad, then the ethical thing for him to have done was resign and refuse to work for such a man as Clinton.

Not at all. That principle only applies to positions in which the position involves carrying out the President's will, such as Secretary of State. Director of the FBI is a relatively autonomous position, so if you don't agree with the President you can keep plugging away.

 

[Waitone]

Clinton and Ken Starr were not the mortal enemies Big Media (BM) made out. Fact of the matter is the Clinton camp cheered when Starr was announced Special Prosecutor. His job was to make it look like an investigation was taking place but to make sure it veered away from the really important stuff. Whitewater and blow jobs was where all the fuss and feathers was. He could not go anywhere near Mena, Arkansas and all the goings on around the town, airport, etc. The death of Vince Foster was one factor that straddled the two scandals and Starr did a fine job of containing it.

Ken Starr was and is an inside player to the power elites. His job is to protect both sides and all parties. And to think he was destined to become a supreme court judge until he went radioactive.

 

[Derek Zeanah]

The death of Vince Foster was one factor that straddled the two scandals and Starr did a fine job of containing it.

You know, I've seen an interview with an editor at the American Spectator (Standard? Whatever the rag was that broke the Vince Foster story), and he said they made it up. That, the drug smuggling links, the Whitewater claims, etc.

All a series of hit pieces that were politically motivated.

Here's a bit from Crossfire:

VO: Behind this were an extraordinary barrage of allegations against Clinton that were obsessing the media. These included stories of sexual harassment; stories that Clinton and his wife were involved in Whitewater, a corrupt property deal; stories that they had murdered their close friend Vince Foster; and stories that Clinton was involved in smuggling drugs from a small airstrip in Arkansas. But none of these stories were true. All of them had been orchestrated by a young group of neoconservatives, who were determined to destroy Clinton. The campaign was centered on a small right-wing magazine called the American Spectator, which had set up what was called the “Arkansas Project” to investigate Clinton’s past life. The journalist at the center of this project was called David Brock.

CROSSFIRE ANNOUNCER : Tonight, the Arkansas allegations. In the crossfire: David Brock, of the American Spectator magazine.

DAVID BROCK : She was dressed in a raincoat and a hat, and came in at 5:15 in the morning, and had a liaison with Clinton in the game room in the bottom floor of the Governor’s mansion.

CROSSFIRE HOST : David, this is getting a little bizarre. Next thing, we’re gonna see… Jane Fonda’s gonna…

BROCK : It’s bizarre! But hey, Bill Clinton is a bizarre guy.

Here's a bit from the BBC interview -- same guy, with a bit more about the investigation:

VO: Since then, Brock has turned against the neoconservative movement. He now believes that the attacks on Clinton went too far, and corrupted conservative politics.

INTERVIEWER (off-camera): Was Whitewater true?

BROCK : No! I mean, there was no criminal wrongdoing in Whitewater. Absolutely not. It was a land deal that the Clintons lost money on. It was a complete inversion of what happened.

INTERVIEWER : Was Vince Foster killed?

BROCK : No. He killed himself.

INTERVIEWER : Did the Clintons smuggle drugs?

BROCK : Absolutely not.

INTERVIEWER : Did those promoting these stories know that this was not true, that none of these stories were true?

BROCK : They did not care.

INTERVIEWER : Why not?

BROCK : Because they were having a devastating effect. So why stop? It was terrorism. Political terrorism.

INTERVIEWER : But you were one of the agents.

BROCK : Absolutely. Absolutely.

VO: The stories began to grip America, and despite Clinton’s denials, the Republicans in Congress seized on the scandals and began to press for investigations into this immorality at the heart of government.

President BILL CLINTON : Basically, the press has editorialized and pressured the politicians into saying, “Here’s a guy that as far as we know hasn’t done anything wrong, nobody’s accused him of doing anything wrong, there’s no evidence that he’s done anything wrong, but we think the presumption of guilt almost should be on him. You should somehow prove his innocence.”

VO: Out of this pressure, Clinton was forced to agree to an independent investigation into Whitewater. It was headed by a senior judge in Washington called Kenneth Starr. But what was not widely known was that Starr was a member of a right-wing group of lawyers called the Federalist Society, that had financial and ideological links to the neoconservatives. And like the neoconservatives, they saw Clinton as a danger to the country, and they were determined to prove this to the American people.

Judge ROBERT BORK , Senior member, Federalist Society: In the Merck manual—Merck is a pharmaceutical company—they have a manual listing various disorders, and they listed “sociopath.” And if you look at “sociopath,” it describes Clinton exactly. Somebody who’s charming, who has no particular feeling at all for the people he’s charming, unable to resist instant gratification, and so on and so on. Goes right down the list. We had a very dysfunctional man in the Presidency. That was very dangerous, both as a model and as, if a crisis had arisen, I had no confidence that he would meet it.

VO: But despite all his efforts, Kenneth Starr could find no incriminating evidence in Whitewater. Nor could he find any evidence to support any of the sexual scandals that had come from the Arkansas Project. Until finally, his committee stumbled upon Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky, which Clinton denied. And in that lie, the neoconservative movement believed they had found what they had been looking for: a way to make the American people see the truth about the liberal corruption of their country. A campaign now began to impeach the President. And in the hysteria, the whole conservative movement portrayed Clinton as a depraved monster who had to be removed from office. But yet again, the neoconservatives had created a fantasy enemy by exaggerating and distorting reality.

JOE CONASON , Author ‘The Hunting of the President’ : They were trapped by a mythological person that they had constructed, or persons—the Clintons, these scheming, terrible people who they, the noble pursuers, were going to vanquish. I think, in the leadership of conservatism, during the Clinton era there was an element of corruption. There was an element of a willingness to do anything to achieve the goal of bringing Clinton down. There was a way in which the people who perceived Clinton as immoral behaved immorally themselves. They ended up behaving worse than the people who they were attacking.

VO: But all the moral fury, and the deception, came to nothing. The impeachment failed because the polls consistently showed that Americans still did not care about these moral issues. One leading neoconservative, William Bennett, wrote a book called The Death of Outrage, which blamed the people. He accused the public of making a deal with the devil. Their failure, he said, to support the impeachment, was evidence of their moral corruption.

Now, I'm no Clinton fan. But I don't like being lied to either. It looks like, with regard to Vince Foster, we were lied to.