Federal Nyclad 9mm in Clear Ballistics gel (one round)

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If you have been shooting and, possibility reloading, for any amount of time you have more than likely a collected bunch of odds and ends. Stuff like holsters, mag pouches, and ammo. I have a small cardboard box that, over the years, has been the stopping point for ammo that has, in one way or another, decided to call it home. It’s normally just one or two rounds, maybe a half dozen at the most, of just about every caliber is have owned in the past. Not long ago I went through this box to see what I have. It turns out I have a lot.

I don’t normally like to test rounds if I don’t have the box it came with. I have done some in the past but not knowing the age and history of the round makes the test less credible. On the other hand, I wonder how they would perform in gel.

And so here is my first installment of what I’m going to call “Loose Rounds”. Let’s start off with a 9mm round that was, if memory serves correctly, very popular round in the 90’s. The Federal 124gr Hyclad hollow point. I carried this ammo for a few years in the late 90’s in my Glock 19. I don’t really remember a lot about them or their history but I think they were discontinued in the late 90’s. My chrony data from 1998 shows me getting a 10 shot average velocity of 1057fps out of my G19.

I shot one round, the only one I had, into bare Clear Ballistic gel with a Sig P229 with a 3.9-inch barrel at a distance of 10 feet. The round had an impact velocity of 1059fps (pretty close to my 1998 data) and penetrated 22.5 inches. With penetration that deep some may have come to the conclusion that expansion was little to none and you would be correct. The bullet began to deform but didn’t achieve what I would call expansion.

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While one round cannot be considered a proper test I have to say that I’m a little disappointed. I carried this round for a short time and now know that it may not have been the best choice.
 
There was talk back then, unfounded I believe, that nyclad bullets could penetrate vests. I think the rumors had something to do with it's demise. My agency used them as practice/requalification rounds at the time for less lead in the air. They were .38Spl. +P round nose solids.
 
I started on the Cop job right at the start of the Super-Vel era...early 1970's. There was a lot of hype, but little real data on much of what we carried. You pretty much knew if you carried a 4" , .357 mag with most any of the 125-158 gr loads , it would probably work on a BG. But it got questionable when you moved down to .38 Spcl , 9mm or especially a .380 auto round. Didn't see much of them expanding after shooting them into wet earth/sand, milk jugs, etc.

We are living in FAR better times NOW!
 
The big Nyclad whoopidedo was the .38 Special as they had a round that was supposed to actually open up from a two inch chiefs special and such. I only ever found one box in those pre FOPA86 days and as I shot what I carried they did not last long.

FN,

Ah, Lee Jurras and SUPER VEL. Scary stuff that. For whatever reason my little gang had no difficulty finding the yellow boxes with red print that marked .380 ACP gold. Sometimes they did not expand in anything, sometimes they did right well, They were the only .380 load at the time we all shot through both sides of empty steel 55 gallon drums with. They were noticeably louder than anyone else's load and ejection was more brisk.

We shot them in a Beretta 34, Astra Constable, Walther PPKs and PPK and a little FI version of the Star D model which they beat to death, (no issues with the blow backs but that swinging Browning link Star design got battered, go figure)

A bud with a Model 27 Smith used one of their .357 loads as a carry load and that thing hurt your teeth when it went off.

I find it hard to believe that the Super Vel folks had ever even met SAAMI much less talked to him.

-kBob
 
I had some of his early .380 ammo. Recall shooting some standard ball out of my PPK/s then running a mag full of the Super -Vel....a near .38 Special/.357 Magnum difference. With mucho more muzzle flash! HOT stuff.

The .45 acp was hot too.
The good old days! LOL.
 
You will never believe what I just found in my box of ammo? A .38 Nyclad!
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