Federal primers

[ljnowell]

R. Lee said he did not test Federal primers because they did not donate primers to be tested. If the large box bothered me I would dump then load them in smaller sleeves, or I would I would use my Dillon flip tray or I would cut a 1/4 section out of the Federal sleeve and then dump 25 at a time.



Then the editorial: I find it difficult to understand gun owners, reloaders, licensed carries that would allow a small thing like the difference in the size of a box upset them. I avoid people that have no problem solving skills.



And I always say Federal went to the large box just to give R. Lee something to complain about. And now? I believe Federal went to the large box to keep those with little or no problem solving skills something to complain about.



F. Guffey

I hear that said a lot but I have never found the text of him saying that. In modern reloading he specifically says that it is because of the compound in the primers.

From modern reloading:

Federal brand primers are the most dangerous when used in the Lee tray fed priming systems. This is not to infer that they are inferior, they simply are dangerous when used in tray fed tools. Nor should you conclude Federal primers are more powerful. Tests show Federal rifle and pistol primers have about the same energy as other brands. It's simply is too darn dangerous to use Federal primers in the Lee tray fed priming tools.....................................Some shooters prefer Federal brand primers. Just as some drivers prefer Ford or Chevrolet. Federal brand primers must not be used with any Lee tray feeder automatic primer feeding device. A single exception; a primer explosion guard is available for the Lee Load-Master. Should you use primers other than CCI or Winchester brand, be sure that you feed them one at a time and, as with all primers, keep them in their original container until you use them. I have never found Federal primers to be better or worse than other brands.

 

[GJSchulze]

I think RCBS offers a flipper tray that will allow you to put the container on it & not spill them

yes, because it's square. What I want to know is why anyone ever thought a round one is a good idea when all the packaging I've seen is square.

 

[ljnowell]

yes, because it's square. What I want to know is why anyone ever thought a round one is a good idea when all the packaging I've seen is square.

On the hand held units it doesn't make sense. Lee is finally making a square one now too I believe.

On the lee press mounted trays it makes sense because the round tray acts as a funnel. What I don't understand is why not make it round on the bottom end and square up top? It would make a lot more sense.

 

[JohnM]

All those round trays worked fine for everybody's primer boxes till Federal came along with that ridiculously oversized one.

 

[Potatohead]

Then until you have used Fed, you don't understand the problem.

The little boxes used by everyone else lay flat inside everyones brand of primer flipper trey, or hand primer feed trey.
Put the trey on top of the primers, flip it over, take the packing flat off, and put the trey cover back on.

The Fed box treys hang out in the wind and spill primers even trying to do it 1 row at a time.

rc

Ohhhhh, I see. Well that does suck. Pretty goofy design.

And to think, I was mad (when I was using 100 at a time) when I went from cci to wsp the first time because the tray didnt fit all the way inside my hand priming tray.

 

[rchery59]

I use Federal only for my Kahr P380 . It won't light any other primer reliably . As for getting them into a priming tray, I empty the tray into a ziplock sandwich bag and dump them into the lee auto prime. Very simple.