Feel drawn to the Beretta 9000s

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Don't know why, exactly. I like compact guns and the novel lines of the 9000s intrigue me. It's mass/width would normally be a negative as I buy for concealment - but I don't have a Beretta and this doesn't look *that* big. I understand the trigger isn't the smoothest, but in a defense-carry gun, that's not all bad. Comments?
 
Go to the Beretta Forum and read up on them - generally - U either love them or hate them. There is no middle ground.

It can be gotten fairly cheap, and is not a popular gun.

Apparently, it is common for the safety selector to brake off, as it is very tight to move. Seems like they would fix this.

I think its too chunky, myself
 
just another ackward product made to fulfill an ackward artificial niche created by the AWB. let these guns sunset.

I don't think Giugiaro did very well with it. Have you considered the PX4 Sub-Compact? it seems to be Beretta's latest effort at that niche (a used Cougar would do well too, like the Type L ones).
 
I like the 9000 (9mm). If you are willing to work on the trigger a bit it becomes a whole different animal. You'll know if you like the feel of it when you pick it up. If you do get one you can use 92F magazines with the grip adapter made by Betetta. The adapters are available on ebay as are extra extendable floorplates.

It may or may not be the gun for you, but if it is you will be well rewarded with a little effort.
 
I just sold mine for the same amount I paid for it. It is a decent gun, no jams or any problems. Very solid.

The grip is ...very weird. It also takes a bit to learn to shoot it accurately. DO NOT PAY MORE THAN THREE HUNDRED for this gun out the door. That way, if in a few months you want to get rid of it, you'll get back *most* of your money.

Good luck!
 
I think he's referring to the fact that after the AWB was enacted, some manufacturers came out with smaller autos which were 'scaled' to the lower mag limits.

The Storm subcompact might be a great gun - but as far as I can determine, it hasn't been released yet.
 
Without question the worst gun I ever owned (9000 .40 type F).

Fat, no, make that very fat, looooonnng and heavy trigger, grip even worse than a Glock for ergonomics, very narrow slide serrations make it difficult to rack.

Looks pretty, but you really don't want one of you plan on shooting it.
 
No sub-compact is a great choice if you plan on really shooting it a lot. He asked about the DS/SA 9000s not the DAO 9000F. I personally don't like DA/SA guns, but this will do cocked and locked (slide will cycle with the hammer cocked and safety on which is another feature I like for loading/unloading), or you can use the decocker if you want a DA first shot. You can also disconnect the DA trigger by applying the thumb safety.

The slide & ambi safety levers are what make it fat, the grip is really nice. IMHO its too fat to be a good IWB carry gun, but its fine for a purse or glovebox. I like the overall system, if they could slim it down or move it to a full sized or compact model it's be more useful. I was disappointed the Storm didn't use this safety system and returned to the slided mounted DA/SA arrangement which I'll never buy another of.

12 round mags are available for the 9mm. Ours have been very reliable.

If you like smallish guns the 9000s is very good quality at a low price, but I think a Taurus Millenium-Pro carries better IWB, and usually is a few dollars cheaper than the 9000s. But if you like cocked and locked with ambi safety, the pickings are pretty slim so the 9000s can fill a niche.

--wally.
 
A few things. In fairness, Ayoob had a very early model in .40 and never went back to re-evaluate after some changes were made, but, I suspect that most of his opinions would remain unchanged. This is a love it or hate it gun.

Yes, the grip is fat, but if you find it comfortable then it's a non-issue as to ergonomics. It remains an issue as to carry, a task that I really don't see the gun to be well suited for. As was pointed out a Taurus PT111 Millennium Pro (or any number of guns) would be a far better choice.

Right out of the box the trigger on this gun sucks. With just a little work that can be fixed. The major issue that I have with the gun is the manual safety. It is way too stiff and requires two handed operation. It has loosened up a good bit, and hopefully that will continue. I may have a smith look at this to see if it can be handled with a lighter spring. Beretta has a tendency to over-spring some of their guns. The slide serrations are very narrow, but in a non-defensive role I can forgive this.

I would opt for the 9mm and avoid the .40. From many opinions that I have read people who have the 9 seem to be far more satisfied. For a self-defense/carry role there are far better guns far better suited for the role. For an inexpensive fun plinker the 9000S has great potential, another good reason to go 9mm. In that role I like mine a lot.

FYI, the gun is now completely discontinued (US and Europe). I was told that by a Beretta tech. He said there are more than enough parts to service this gun for many, many years to come. I have recently seen prices on them go up here locally and they all seem to be .40s. I would agree not to pay more than $300 for one new. If you look at this as a gun that is going to take just a bit of work to get right, there is potential (assuming that you can live with the ergonomics) for a fun shooter. Add to that the 92F mags with the factory adapter and it really makes it a fun plinker, holding 15 rounds.

The fact that Tom Cruise used the 9000S in Minority Report I can't change :eek:
 
I liked mine when I had it, but the grip was a little too fat for my hand. I would still have it if not for that. Great gun for the money, IMO.

The new PX4 subcompact with interchangeable backstraps looks good.
 
I gotta agree that it's very nice looking cosmetically. I would love to have one for plinking and maybe getting a few family members into shooting. What would a good price be for used? I know some mentioned not to pay more than 300 for a new one. Personally I enjoy less common guns.

Nice tidbit on the minority report thing, I thought the gun tom cruise used looked rather similar, I guess it has to do with that "futuristic" look of the gun.
 
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