:banghead:Today I went to the range, and zeroed in my BSA scope. Was great for about 50 rounds. Then sloppy, so I re-zeroed and made sure everything was good and tight. Nothing was loose. Fired two more rounds, and lost zero again. Again everything was good and tight. So I said screw it pulled the scope and Iron sighted some great groups (1 1/2in at 50yds). It was overall a great day except that. Oh well. :banghead:
Feel free to say I told you so......
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MoDerN_WarRioR
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I have been there too man. Most of us learn the hard way i think... Well i did too. I have gone through more cheap scopes than it would cost to buy a really nice one! LoL 
Yeah I've had good luck with Simmons scopes as far as holding zero. Most of my friends have too but I do know one guy that had one fail. Most of the guys I hunt with use them though and seem to have good luck. A few guys use Tasco's and like them while a few others have had nothing but problems with them and prefer Simmons. In reality very few of the people I hunt with have anything more than a $100 scope. Most are Simmons, a few Bushnell Banners, and a few Tasco's.
The one scope that I've heard several of them bash is BSA's. The ones that have tried them have had issues. I figure when guys love their Tasco's or Simmons, and then have issues and hate the BSA's they tried it's probably a good idea to stay away from them. The guys certainly aren't picky since they use other cheap scopes and like them. So I've just never used a BSA. One of them did buy two BSA's at once and both had exactly the same problem and just wouldn't stay zeroed.
While I think you can get a lot better glass in the $200 range if you can only spend $50 or so the experience I've had as well as most friends have been that the Simmons seem decent. I've even thought the Tasco at Walmart was decent for what it cost. You don't get the clarity of the nicer scopes, nor the repeatability of adjustments on some that is. They do seem to work as long as you zero them then leave them zeroed. You can see in your other thread where I compared it to Leupold VX-I's I've used and I prefer the cheaper ones actually. However, there are a lot of great scopes in that same price range that blow both the cheaper Leupolds and the cheaper scopes like Simmons, Tasco, etc out of the water.
I'm just not sure I would put a $2-300 scope on a $100 .22 rifle unless I already had the scope I wasn't using.
The one scope that I've heard several of them bash is BSA's. The ones that have tried them have had issues. I figure when guys love their Tasco's or Simmons, and then have issues and hate the BSA's they tried it's probably a good idea to stay away from them. The guys certainly aren't picky since they use other cheap scopes and like them. So I've just never used a BSA. One of them did buy two BSA's at once and both had exactly the same problem and just wouldn't stay zeroed.
While I think you can get a lot better glass in the $200 range if you can only spend $50 or so the experience I've had as well as most friends have been that the Simmons seem decent. I've even thought the Tasco at Walmart was decent for what it cost. You don't get the clarity of the nicer scopes, nor the repeatability of adjustments on some that is. They do seem to work as long as you zero them then leave them zeroed. You can see in your other thread where I compared it to Leupold VX-I's I've used and I prefer the cheaper ones actually. However, there are a lot of great scopes in that same price range that blow both the cheaper Leupolds and the cheaper scopes like Simmons, Tasco, etc out of the water.
I'm just not sure I would put a $2-300 scope on a $100 .22 rifle unless I already had the scope I wasn't using.
armoredman
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I had a Simmons 8 Point, zeroed, shot some great groups at 200 yards...next trip I fired this.
...and got worse from there. That junker went back. Someday I'll get the $ to buy a decent scope.
...and got worse from there. That junker went back. Someday I'll get the $ to buy a decent scope.
Wow that does suck. I'm sure with any scope you can get bad ones. I also suspect the chances of getting a bad one are a lot higher with a $30-50 scope than with a $300 one. I did have a friend that had his fail after about a year. Then I've had others that have had them 5-8 years and they still work. I don't know I have mixed feelings. I've had good luck with them. The majority of my friends have. Plus they are cheap. Now I'm sure they aren't up to par with a $300 scope on average but can you really expect a scope at that price to be? I can't bash them too much because like I said I haven't had issues but I know some guys online do post issues like yours. It seems like on forums like this more guys seem to say that they have had issues. Where as if you look at reviews on sites that sell them it seems like the majority of the reviews are positive.
The only scope I've ever had fail has been the Leupold VX-I and I've had 2 that had to be sent in. One had to be sent in twice. That made me think that while the Simmons and cheap Tasco's may fail you are probably as likely to have a lower end Leupold fail so why pay the extra. Sure the warranty is better but with cheaper scopes you can just buy another.
BTW what caliber gun was that above?
The only scope I've ever had fail has been the Leupold VX-I and I've had 2 that had to be sent in. One had to be sent in twice. That made me think that while the Simmons and cheap Tasco's may fail you are probably as likely to have a lower end Leupold fail so why pay the extra. Sure the warranty is better but with cheaper scopes you can just buy another.
BTW what caliber gun was that above?
One other scope I forgot to mention that I haven't tried yet but have read a lot of great things about is the Center Point 4x16x42 or whatever it is sold at Walmart. It seems like a lot of guys really like this scope. I just haven't tried one.
racky
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i won't say "i told you so." instead i'll say "been there, done that!" now i own an aimpoint, eotech, and a nikon monarch. all bought used of course to save money.
armoredman
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slowr1der, that is a CZ527 in 7.62x39mm, great little carbine.
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