i promised myself that i would never own one of these, but while being well stocked in M14s and AKs i decided i needed to fill the Black Rifle Quota. i guess i have never liked how most of these rifles lack individuality, so i went with the less common plane jane 20" A4 profile. it's a Stag Arms Model 4. im a total noob to the .223 world so we will see.....