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If this is a gun you are not going to sale later I would say a Taurus 38/357. If you have little experience stay with a revolver. Do Not get an semi-auto, to much can go wrong. I said Taurus because it's a outstanding gun but no resale value, but any name brand will suit your needs. Ruger, S&W, or Colt. Just stay away from auto's till you have more range time.
Lonestar49
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Respectfully disagree
Quote: If you have little experience stay with a revolver. Do Not get an semi-auto, to much can go wrong. I said Taurus because it's a outstanding gun but no resale value, but any name brand will suit your needs.
Just stay away from auto's till you have more range time.
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I never owned a Revolver, or Semi auto pistol, and started off with the Beretta Px4 40cal, and thought I had bought an Elephant gun, for months.
But, Reading first, the Rules of safety, passing that written test, calling the local range and making an appointment with a range officer to learn how to shoot my new gun, along with, after the lesson, he showed me how to clean it. And I continued my reading (the owners manual) along with buying "snap caps" and making sure when I practiced loading, cycling the slide, etc, trigger pulls, etc., all with 5 snap caps.
And yes, the gun scared me, and I would not leave it loaded at night for a couple of months. And yes, at first, when I did get past the fear of the unknown, I did not chamber one at night. But with each range practice, cleaning of the gun, more reading in here, and just becoming "familiar" with my new gun, and what it could do, and what it could do IF I did not follow the simple rules, along with my own "house rule", that now, and for a long time, if any of my guns is in a holster, then it IS loaded, chambered, and in one case, locked and cocked, and I feel very comfy, but it was a learning process.
Basically, a step by step process, and a belief in any learning curve, that I was in no rush to outsmart myself.
And yep, I verify that to myself, or to anyone that is wanting to look at them, and I unload it, and hand it over, wide open, and same deal with any gun of mine, the process is a habit now.. a good one. Always Assume that a gun IS loaded. One of the great Assumptions.
I just think if one is willing to overcome any fear of a unknown, with "a willing to learn, step by step", one can start off with a semi without a problem up the road, and go from little knowledge, to educated, comfy, in 3 months, or less, depending on range time.
I made it, thru 5 now..
But of course, the choice will be his, and his comfort zone, bar-none.
my 2 cents
LS
PS.. just don't start off with a 40cal.. Elephant gun (recoil) .. go 9mm
DA/SA (with a hammer you see) if you go semi IMHO
Quote: If you have little experience stay with a revolver. Do Not get an semi-auto, to much can go wrong. I said Taurus because it's a outstanding gun but no resale value, but any name brand will suit your needs.
Just stay away from auto's till you have more range time.
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I never owned a Revolver, or Semi auto pistol, and started off with the Beretta Px4 40cal, and thought I had bought an Elephant gun, for months.
But, Reading first, the Rules of safety, passing that written test, calling the local range and making an appointment with a range officer to learn how to shoot my new gun, along with, after the lesson, he showed me how to clean it. And I continued my reading (the owners manual) along with buying "snap caps" and making sure when I practiced loading, cycling the slide, etc, trigger pulls, etc., all with 5 snap caps.
And yes, the gun scared me, and I would not leave it loaded at night for a couple of months. And yes, at first, when I did get past the fear of the unknown, I did not chamber one at night. But with each range practice, cleaning of the gun, more reading in here, and just becoming "familiar" with my new gun, and what it could do, and what it could do IF I did not follow the simple rules, along with my own "house rule", that now, and for a long time, if any of my guns is in a holster, then it IS loaded, chambered, and in one case, locked and cocked, and I feel very comfy, but it was a learning process.
Basically, a step by step process, and a belief in any learning curve, that I was in no rush to outsmart myself.
And yep, I verify that to myself, or to anyone that is wanting to look at them, and I unload it, and hand it over, wide open, and same deal with any gun of mine, the process is a habit now.. a good one. Always Assume that a gun IS loaded. One of the great Assumptions.
I just think if one is willing to overcome any fear of a unknown, with "a willing to learn, step by step", one can start off with a semi without a problem up the road, and go from little knowledge, to educated, comfy, in 3 months, or less, depending on range time.
I made it, thru 5 now..
But of course, the choice will be his, and his comfort zone, bar-none.
my 2 cents
LS
PS.. just don't start off with a 40cal.. Elephant gun (recoil) .. go 9mm
DA/SA (with a hammer you see) if you go semi IMHO
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Lonestar49, he has to buy a gun within 30 days. What good is it if waits 2 months before he's used to it and not afraid of it? I agree with you all the way about range time and reading everything you can on your weapon. However it's my understanding this is a home defence gun first and then a range gun. In MHO it it always better to K.I.S.S. that way MR Murphy has less room to foul things up, and that's very important when your familey's life is depending on it.
Lonestar49
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We agree
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Yes, I agree, to a point. 30 days and counting, then, if he did want another gun, 60 days, to be safe, time wise, and that is why I would not go 22, but semi, or yes, revolver. We have no argument there. But my time, may not be his time, he could excel faster, same, slower, dunno really.
And I'm sure we agree, that the choice will be his, but he asked, and I answered, semi over revolver, and you may well be right, for a faster, simpler form of HD/SD within the next 30 days.
I just keep thinking on someones signature that says: "Remember, your best thinking got you where you are today"
And if he has not met trouble, (in my case, none in over 40yrs before I got my first pistol) then there is no rush. On the other hand, if that is the reason, need of urgency, (trouble) to acquire a pistol for SD/HD, then I would say, yep.. K.I.S.S.
I'm sure he found the answer and direction he is going to take in the next 28 days.
I look forward to his report.. as we both agree on this, for the most part (DA a/o SA with a physical hammer) for many revolvers and semi's, and of course, some without.
LS
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Yes, I agree, to a point. 30 days and counting, then, if he did want another gun, 60 days, to be safe, time wise, and that is why I would not go 22, but semi, or yes, revolver. We have no argument there. But my time, may not be his time, he could excel faster, same, slower, dunno really.
And I'm sure we agree, that the choice will be his, but he asked, and I answered, semi over revolver, and you may well be right, for a faster, simpler form of HD/SD within the next 30 days.
I just keep thinking on someones signature that says: "Remember, your best thinking got you where you are today"
And if he has not met trouble, (in my case, none in over 40yrs before I got my first pistol) then there is no rush. On the other hand, if that is the reason, need of urgency, (trouble) to acquire a pistol for SD/HD, then I would say, yep.. K.I.S.S.
I'm sure he found the answer and direction he is going to take in the next 28 days.
I look forward to his report.. as we both agree on this, for the most part (DA a/o SA with a physical hammer) for many revolvers and semi's, and of course, some without.
LS
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That's the answer. And in your case, not only are you on a time limit for the decision, but given the climate today, it may well be the only handgun you'll ever have the opportunity to own.
You don't have time for the usual trainers, .22's or whatever. If you make a mistake with your purchase you may never be able to correct it. Stick with name brands... and I mean S&W, Colt, Ruger. Nothing risky that could go either way. (Like a Taurus or Charter)
One thing is certain... no matter how advanced a collector you may ever someday become, given the brightest possible future, you will never outgrow a 4" .357/.38.
wizard of oz
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Somewhere with worse gun laws than Australia ?For range and home defense ?
S&W 627. Revolver, 5inch barrel,357/.38, 8 round capacity
or S&W 686, probably 6 inch barrel.
buy new and buy expensive - because of the hoops you have to jump through.
Have fun !
Sistema1927
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What part of "shall not be infringed" do the politicos in NY not understand?
It must really suck to be a subject in New York.
It must really suck to be a subject in New York.
Dean407
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Go to a gun shop and handle quite a few. Then pick caliber. 9mm is easy on the wallet as opposed to .45
Check out the Springfield XD series, Glocks, SIGs, H&K.
Whatever you get needs to feel right in your hand first and foremost.
Check out the Springfield XD series, Glocks, SIGs, H&K.
Whatever you get needs to feel right in your hand first and foremost.
breakerilya
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thank you all for your feedback! I appreciate it!
any recommendations as to what kind of ear/eye protection, cleaning kits, anything else I might need when I go to the range for the first time?
any recommendations as to what kind of ear/eye protection, cleaning kits, anything else I might need when I go to the range for the first time?
breakerilya
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brought my first handgun home yesterday... ended up getting a G23 w/ night sights me so happy
time to sign up to a range... take some safety and basic courses, etc....
question: what is mercedes benz of the ear/eye protection?
me so happy time to sign up to a range... take some safety and basic courses, etc....
question: what is mercedes benz of the ear/eye protection?
Scorpiusdeus
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I'd say go with a Ruger GP100 or SP101.
Mr Kablammo
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Well, I am going to say the first gun should be a Beretta 92 FS or CZ 75 B. Why? Because you can buy .22 kits AND go from 9mm to 0.40 cal by buying a new slide, barrel, and recoil spring. The parts for the caliber swap ARE NOT guns nor receivers so you can have 3-guns-in-1 with the one receiver that is registered (YUCK) with the po-po. This thinking recommends other guns that have similar mult-caliber capability that I may not now know of.
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