First malfunction in my Glock 26…

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First malfunction in my Glock 26…

And it was kind of a strange one. I was at the range today, and shot 100 rounds through my G26. Before leaving a friend asked if he could shoot the G26. He fired the first round, which ejected. He then said that the trigger didn’t reset. Upon examining the gun, he was correct the trigger had not reset. I pulled back slowly on the slide, and confirmed that the fired casing had been ejected, which it had, and then noticed that the top round of the magazine had not fed up into the barrel. The top round was still sitting perfectly in the magazine just as it had been loaded. It had me wondering if he had not completely seated the loaded magazine in the magazine well, but that explanation doesn’t explain why the trigger had not reset, because as I mentioned the slide had ejected the spent casing just fine, and closed back into battery. So can anyone explain this strange malfunction? Does it sound like the gun, or could this person have done something to cause the malfunction? Thanks for any info.
 
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How did it function after you cleared it? If it was fine, I believe your first surmise about the magazine not being seated is correct (though I wouldn't totally rule out a magazine problem). As for the reset, could he have tried to fire it on the empty chamber?
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Greg
 
I don't even know if it is possible but could the round have been just underpowered enough to not allow the slide back far enough to strip the top round from the mag? Maybe it was a slight limp wrist... I would only consider it a malfunction with the gun if it happens more than once.
 
He limp wristed- newbs do it all the time- autos need a firm hand to stabilize the frame so the slide can operate properly- my guess is that the slide didnt cycle far enough back
 
Slide did not travel far enough back. I agree it was either an undercharged round or a loose grip/wrist. Since it was someone who wasn't familiar with the pistol I'd lean towards the latter.
 
Those darned Glocks! As soon as you try to impress someone, ... another 'common' failure.
 
I appreciate the comments. He went on to fire the rest of the magazine without any problems, but we were out of ammo at that point. I think I'm going to go back tomorrow and put another 100 rounds through it to make myself comfortable that it was user error.

I see that a lot a ranges with Glocks.

I've got 3 Glock 9mm's, and this was the first malfunction with any of them. This gun probably has a couple thousand rounds through it, maybe a little more. Not disputing what you said, just that of the three guns I have, this was the first malfunction of the type mentioned above (or any other for that matter). Be interested in hearing the specifics from you and from other with your experience, though.
 
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If the cause of the problem was "limp wristing" you haven't seen it before because you don't handle the gun that way. BTW, sometimes the cause of that condition is not truly "limp wristing." The hand and forearm have to have a certain amount of mass to resist recoil, so the problem can happen with a child or a woman, or even a lightly built man, even if the wrist is held straight.

Also, there is a greater tendency for it to happen with a polymer or alloy frame pistol; a steel pistol (e.g., full size 1911 type) has enough mass of its own to function with a hold that could cause problems with a light gun.

Jim
 
It should be impossible for the slide to move back far enough to eject a spent case and not reset the trigger. That would have had to be entirely mechanical. Check the disconnector and while you're at it look for debris buildup between the trigger bar and frame. Also look for any debris that may have gotten between the disconnector and the trigger housing. If the round count on your G26 isn't low (>1000 rds.) make sure the disconnector hasn't cut a groove in the slide hump that activates it. This is HIGHLY unlikely but it is possible the disconnector is harder than the slide.


As for the slide not picking up the next round but still ejecting the prior one cleanly? Possible but not very likely. You may want to take a look at the mag. My brother in law's Taurus PT-92 had an occasional sticking of the mag follower that caused the same problem. We eventually figured out that the follower would stick but be jarred loose again when the slide slammed shut. A new mag, and an occasional cleaning, fixed it.
Not saying it's a very likely thing to happen but it is a possibilty that doesn't cost anything to explore.
 
I've got 3 Glock 9mm's, and this was the first malfunction with any of them. This gun probably has a couple thousand rounds through it, maybe a little more. Not disputing what you said, just that of the three guns I have, this was the first malfunction of the type mentioned above (or any other for that matter). Be interested in hearing the specifics from you and from other with your experience, though.

I wasn't demeaning your choice of handguns, but I do travel a lot. I am on the road for 2 months at a time. I take my handguns with me, and shoot on Saturdays and Sundays at different ranges throughout the south. I often see jams in Glocks. Many times this is due to limp-wristing.
 
I wasn't demeaning your choice of handguns, but I do travel a lot. I am on the road for 2 months at a time. I take my handguns with me, and shoot on Saturdays and Sundays at different ranges throughout the south. I often see jams in Glocks. Many times this is due to limp-wristing.

I didn't mean to insinuate that you were demeaning Glock, and I don't doubt your experience with Glock's jamming. What I think I misunderstood in your comment, is that I thought you were saying that you were seeing the same type of malfunction as I described above, ocurring regularly with Glocks. I was interested in hearing specifics about it, particularly if you had noticed some type of issue. Now, if I understand correctly, you were just referring to Glock jams in general, including "limp wristing".
 
After reading this thread, I went back and played with my G19. I could easily reproduce condition where spent case ejected but next round failed to feed. As others had said it can be caused by many reasons such as limp wristing, underpowdered/overexpanded round, defective case, etc. Nothing to be alarmed about, it happens, that's why we practice clearing jams.

Strange part is that the trigger did not reset. I could not reproduce it; the trigger resets long before spent round is ejected. My question is, are you sure that the trigger did not reset in the actual incident? I can imagine that your friend pulled the trigger, and - when the gun FTF'ed because the round did not feed - he mistakenly reported to you that the trigger wasn't reset. It's easy to make this mistake especially if the trigger is light or person is shooting fast.

Mike
 
hoptob,

I appreciate you checking your gun, and yes I could easily imagine this person having pulled the trigger without realizing it. When he gave it to me, the trigger was not reset, but I immediately suspected the same thing as you. Unfortunately, because I can't rely on the shooter to be accurate in his discription, I'm going to have to go back out to the range to make myself comfortable with this situation. If I can get through a 100 rounds or so without the problem duplicating itself, I'll chalk it up to user error.

Thanks again for checking your firearm.
 
Well, I finally made it back out to the range. I wanted to see if I could duplicate the malfunction so I used the same magazine throughout the range session, and I did not clean the gun at all, so the gun was in the same condition as when it malfunctioned last. I fired 100 rounds of Winchester bulk pack through the G26 without a single malfunction. At this point I'm inclined to chalk it up to user error. As I mentioned, this fellow was also the only one who ever got my AK to malfunction. I think it's a talent of his, and not in any way related to the firearms he probably should not be touching.:dunno: Anyway, I'll clean it up well, and I will be "keeping an eye" on the Glock 26 in upcoming range sessions to rule out a problem. I have a friend who is a Glock armorer, who said that if it's a trigger spring issue, it's an easy fix. He offered to tear the gun down and go over it if I want. Right now I think it's fine so I'm going to leave it alone.

Thanks again for all of the feedback.
 
The only time that my G26 did that was when I let a friends 12 year old kit shoot it. I think he weighed about 75 pounds. "Jammed" every time he pulled the trigger, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. He would hand it back to me, and I could empty the magazine without incident. (Don't change a thing)...
 
He prolly hit the mag release when he fired the 1st round. It may have unseated the mag for the 2nd round. You can duplicate it by putting pressure on the mag release while shooting.
 
How can a Glock malfunction. They're so uber reliable, NOT

Sounds like a person malfunction; no auto will cycle 100% limpwristed. I put 300 rounds through my XDm w/o a hitch, then deliberately limpwristed until I finally coaxed a FTE, grip safety & all. They will all do it w/ an improper grip.
 
A malfunction in a glock? that is unheard of (or is it a glock owner admitting a malfunction that is unheard of?) anyway glad it wasn't a sigma. I would still be reading about the POS i carry everyday.
 
So this is just another example of a Glock not malfunctioning? How boring.
 
nothing is perfect. mines jammed once similar out of 800+ rounds. i almost shed a tear believing glocks would never jam. j/k. this one jam was with the blazer steel case in cold condition, first time shooting steel case with that gun.
 
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