MN Carry Laws
Here's a paste from usacarry.com about MN (but a more authoritative place is here:
http://www.dps.state.mn.us/bca/CJIS/Documents/CarryPermit/permittocarry.html:
(as an aside, both your listed choices are great guns, but both are HUGE for CCW as others have said - Sig P239?...)
Concealed Permit:
Shall Issue to Residents and Non-Residents
Issuing Authority:
The issuing authority is the local chief of police or the county sheriff. Non-residents may apply to any Minnesota county sheriff.
Out Of State Permit Issue:
Yes
NICS check:
Yes
Permit Valid For:
New and renewal permits are valid for five (5) years from the date of issuance. Emergency permits are valid for 30 days.
Permit ISsued Timeline:
The county sheriff must either issue or deny a permit within 30 days of the application date.
Cost:
The fee for a new permit to carry will be determined by the county sheriff, not to exceed $100. A fee for a renewal permit (applied for before the expiration date of a current permit to carry) will be determined by the county sheriff, not to exceed $75. An additional $10.00 fee will be charged for those applying for a renewal after the expiration date on the previous permit, but within 30 days of that expiration date.
Requirements:
1. Must be at least 21 years of age
2. Must complete an application form
3. Must not be prohibited from possessing a firearm under Minnesota Statute 624.714
4. Must not be listed in the criminal gang investigation system
5. Must be a resident of the county from which you are requesting a permit, if you reside in Minnesota. Non-residents may apply to any Minnesota county sheriff.
6. Must provide certificate of completed authorized firearms training. Training by a certified instructor and completed within one year of an original or renewal application. (624.714, Subd. 2a)
Required Documents:
1. Completed application
2. Copy of your training certificate
3. Cop0y of your driver's license
4. State ID Card or Passport photo
5. Application Fee
Renewal Information:
Permits must be renewed at the county sheriff’s office in the county where the applicant currently resides. Out of state permit holders can renew at any sheriff’s office. Not prior to 90 days of the expiration date of the current permit. The maximum renewal gun permit fee will be $75.00.
After the expiration date, but within 30 days after the expiration, you can renew your permit by paying an additional late fee of $10.00. During this time your past permit is not valid, and you will not be able to carry until your renewal permit has been approved and issued.
31 days after expiration, you will no longer be able to renew your permit, but will have to apply for a new gun permit. The maximum gun permit fee will then be $100.00.
1. Take an authorized firearms training class within one year or your renewal application.
2. Deliver the application packet, not prior to 90 days of the expiration date of the current permit, in person to the Sheriff’s Department in the county where you currently reside, or for out of state permit holders, to any Sheriff’s Department in the State of Minnesota.
3. The packet must contain a completed application, signed and dated
http://www.dps.state.mn.us/bca/Forms/Documents/CarryApplication100106.pdf with the renewal box checked and an original certificate of completed authorized firearms training. You must present a current drivers license, state identification card or the photo page of your passport (not a US citizen but permanent resident must present an I-551 or I-151 card).
Change of Address:
A permit holder is required to notify the issuing sheriff’s office within 30 days of a permanent address change. Failure to do so is a petty misdemeanor.
Informing Law Enforcement of Carry:
Upon request of a peace officer, a permit holder must disclose to the officer whether or not the permit holder is currently carrying a firearm.
Automobile carry:
Transporting firearms without a permit requires the person to have the firearm unloaded and fully enclosed in a case made to contain a firearm. For full details on transporting firearms, refer to Minnesota Statute 97B.045, Transportation of Firearms.
Places off-limits when carrying:
1. School property
2. A childcare center while children are present
3. Public colleges and universities – may have policy restricting the carrying of weapons on their premises by employees and students while on campus
4. Private establishments that have posted a sign banning guns on their premises
5. Private establishments who have personally informed the permit holder that guns are prohibited and demands compliance
6. Places of employment, public or private, if employer restricts the carry or possession of firearms by is employees
7. State correctional facilities or state hospitals and grounds (MN Statute 243.55)
8. Any jail, lockup or correctional facility (MN Statute 641.165)
9. Courthouse complexes, unless the sheriff is notified (MN Statute 609.66)
10. Offices and courtrooms of the Minnesota Supreme Court and Court of Appeals
11. Any state building unless the commissioner of public safety is notified (MN Statute 609.66)
12. In a field while hunting big game by archery, except when hunting bear (MN Statute 97B.211)
13. In federal court facilities or other federal facilities (Title 18 U.S.C.§ 930)
Alcohol and Drugs:
Waiting For Information. As always, alcohol/drugs don't mix with firearms. That's a pretty simple rule of thumb.
Deadly Force / Castle Doctrine:
Minnesota is a Castle Doctrine state and does have a stand-your-ground law.
Open Carry:
Prohibited in all public areas unless one possesses a recognized permit.
Localities with Varying Laws:
Forms & Links:
Application
NRA-ILA: Minnesota Gun Laws