Five minutes in a dark alley

[forty_caliber]

Five minutes in a dark alley is all I need with the low down, no good, dirty polecat, yellow belly coward of an engineer that decided it would be a good idea to make .45ACP cases with small pistol primers.

Who in their right mind changes a cartridge after 100 years of perfection. If it was good enough for Browning and General Patton it was good enough for all time. If Dante had anything on the ball I hope the lowest level of H E double toothpicks is reserved for that Romeo Foxtrot fatherless troglodyte.

I really dislike sorting these.



.40

 

[captain awesome]

Haha about how I feel.
Jmorris should mas produce and market one of his sorters.

 

[joneb]

The large primer did not work well with a non-toxic primer compound, they tried to make work by enlarging the flash hole. NT primers work well for 45 acp in a small primer format, it think this is how it came to be.
I have not had to load SPP in 45 acp yet but if I am out of or can't find LPP I have a pile of small primed 45 acp brass to load.

 

[mstreddy]

Go ahead .40, tell us how you really feel...
For me, it's meh, I sort them after I clean them.
I keep the SPPs for when I want to be lazy and not switch the primer parts on my LNL and want to load a quick batch of 45s.

 

[LiveLife]

When I bought Tula SP primers with harder cups that would not reliably ignite, I found the solution to be using them in 45 ACP cases with small primers. They all went "bang" (M&P45, PT145, Sig 1911) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ts-your-experience.630512/page-5#post-7840156

When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade.

 

[Catpop]

I find my 45acp SPP brass in my SDB when they refuse to prime LPP. I then put them in a separate bag to save for that day I run out of LPP!

By the way all Blazer aluminum case cases are spp. ( those that aren’t berdan primed, that is)

 

[Bfh_auto]

I don't know why a 45 needs a large primer. The 357 doesn't and it burns a lot more powder.
Mixing large and small is a recipe for annoyance though.

 

[brewer12345]

And here I wish all 45 brass were SPP. Seems to make no difference to loads and my other high volume cartridges all use SPP.

 

[Casefull]

I understand the confusion. But I like the small primers also, makes for a stronger base.

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

I wish all 45 brass were SPP.

I wish all there was no such thing as Large Pistol Primers.

 

[brewer12345]

I wish all there was no such thing as Large Pistol Primers.

That would make life a lot easier.

 

[mstreddy]

I wish all there was no such thing as Large Pistol Primers.

I'll agree with that. Except for 45 Colt and the 45 ACP, every other pistol round I load takes Small Pistol Primers.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Oh man, the video stopped before the good part!

 

[ReloaderFred]

It's nothing new and it's been beat to death on just about every forum, including this one. (Do a search) I've got a .45 acp case headstamped 1954 that contains a small pistol primer pocket, and I've had it in my collection for over 30 years, long before it was done domestically.

All I can say is "case inspection" is your friend.

Hope this helps.

Fred

 

[lightman]

I didn't know they dated back that far, kind of interesting! I agree, having both sizes is kind of a pain. I sort cases by headstamp and look them over pretty carefully. I guess the degree of pain depends on how you load, single stage or progressive? To me, its not that big of a deal, but still its like they fixed something that was not broken.

 

[FROGO207]

I understand why they did it. In my case I decap on a SS press and inspect/sort the brass at that point. It just means another container to sort into. That said, nobody likes change.....especially after all these years of some ol same ol. Using a magnet to remove steel cases and looking into the cases for the step on 9MM and 380 is another annoyance but I still do it.

 

[Demi-human]

Just be glad there isn't hardly any more "Medium" sized primer brass left...

Oh, what a long and lustrous past she has had! My sweet Fourty Five Auto!
My we have many more together!

 

[375supermag]

Hi...
I don't care for the small primer .45ACP brass either... I throw away every one I find mixed in with my brass. Don't need the hassle of them finding their way into the brass feeder on my LnL press.
Fortunately I have a huge amount of large primer brass for my .45ACP pistols

 

[GBExpat]

I've got a .45 acp case headstamped 1954 that contains a small pistol primer pocket ...

 

[Texas10mm]

I sort them on the press. I just throw them in a bucket with all the other "bad" brass, crimped 9mm, .380 in the 9mm stream, .40 in the 10mm stream, and so on.

 

[badkarmamib]

I sort mine during inspection, since most of my pistol brass is range pickups. I give the SPP .45ACP to a buddy, who waits till he has enough to make a run, and uses it at locations where he can't pick it back up.

 

[cfullgraf]

I shoot mostly off the back porch so the only range brass I pick up are cases that I generated. But, I stopped buying once fired brass a couple decades ago.

There were always enough cases in a batch not made to the same standard as the mainstream design that caused reloading issues. As I encountered the odd cases, they would get discarded but it usually caused an interruption in the reloading process and I dislike the wasted time.

I am in a position that I can buy new cases of my choice but not everyone can. If one needs to economize and use range pick up cases or buy once fired cases, then they need to develop an inspection process to weed out the undesirable cases like SPP 45 Auto cases in this case.

 

[Dudedog]

Small primer .45 doesn't bother me.
Just sort it and keep it around in case I run out of LP primers.
Now Crimped primers in 9mm and .45 are a pain

I expect them in .223 brass and deal with them but in pistol brass

 

[ArchAngelCD]

45 Auto cases with SPP have their place like for lost brass matches. PERFECT!

 

[9mmepiphany]

I trade LPP .45ACP for SPP .45ACP cases with local reloaders. They are happy to get extra LPP cases and I get rid of my odd-ball head stamped brass. I like loading SPP .45ACP on my Hornady LNL AP because I don't have to switch the priming punch...but mostly because I have a lot more SPP than LPP on hand.

The nice thing about loading SPP cases is that when a LPP case sneaks in (yes, there is LPP Blazer .45ACP) it doesn't jam up the press. The SPP goes into the LPP pocket and doesn't meet any resistance, you can feel this as you're priming and can remove the case. The SPP doesn't get struck in the primer pocket and is ready to load in the next case up