Fix Bayonets!

Seeing all of these AK and SKS bayonets jogged my memory such that I remembered I do have another bayonet...
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Great pictures everybody! IMG_20230804_162813071~2.jpg

This M-7 will also work on an AR-15 I have. I had an interesting AK type clone that would fit on an AR-15/M-16 type rifle. It went with the SP1 when I sold it though. I'd like to find another just because that was the only one I've seen...

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This is on my list of things to do....

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Just because....

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From way back when I was young and impressionable.

I have an SKS with a spike (unless it was among those that got lost when I rolled my canoe).
 
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One of the guns I sold a few years ago while trimming the collection down. Now I regret it because it's a Lee-Enfield No. 1 Mark 3 and my paternal grandfather spent 17 months in France with the Canadian Machine Gun Corps and I'm sure he was very familiar with these. The bayonet was sold at the same auction but separately. IMG_1763.JPG ..Bayonet was a Wilkinson pattern 1907 according to the auction house.
 
Oooooohhhhh.....love the SIG!
Thanks! Picked it up a couple of months ago and it's been evolving.

Started out by replacing the fishgill handguards with a 551 set, then found a 556 Patrol with side folder at a gun show a couple of weeks ago and swapped the lowers (then sold the Patrol for what I had in it). Also added the MFI diopter/rail for a more "Swiss" look.

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Thanks! Picked it up a couple of months ago and it's been evolving.

Started out by replacing the fishgill handguards with a 551 set, then found a 556 Patrol with side folder at a gun show a couple of weeks ago and swapped the lowers (then sold the Patrol for what I had in it). Also added the MFI diopter/rail for a more "Swiss" look.

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Looks WAY better now, more Swiss but still takes STANAG mags. :thumbup:
 
sgt127: "When the Kitty Man Comes!"😼, based on an old shanty song.
Those cats look like bad dudes:oops: who control all of the turf.

The L1A1 FAL now shipping to my FFL has what looks like an Aussie (British) lug on the flash hider, but I'm not gonna pay over $200 to have a bayo for the rifle.
Ammo is the 'game', because it costs so much, and because the M1A plus other FAL use brass-cased .308 ammo.
 
PTR-91 (civilian G3) with German G3 bayonet mounted. This is unusual in that it mounts on top of the barrel. The blade form is copied directly from the U.S. M4-5-6-7 series.

You can see the metal plate at the front bottom of the grip, which protects the grip from the blast coming from the slots in the flash hider.

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Detail of the hilt, showing the locking mechanism on the pommel. This enters the front of the cocking tube, on the rifle. An off-the-shelf PTR-91 needs to have the spring-loaded bayonet adapter added, to replace the cap at the end of the tube.

The groove on the guard is to engage the spring catch on the German scabbard.

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Many of the countries using the G3, such as Norway, Turkey, Pakistan, etc., adopted their own forms of bayonet. The Norwegian bayonet has the hilt shorter, and the guard set back, by 1/2" so as to clear the flash hider slots. The Turkish blade is 3" longer. And the Pakistani bayonet uses a Bowie-style blade copied from the British Nos. 5, 7, and 9 bayonets. (I have these in my collection but it's too much trouble to dig them out just now.)
 
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Turkish M1935 bayonet, converted to fit the Garand around the time of the Korean War.
You are correct. I found the bayonet at a collector’s show in Alabama several years ago. The seller had no clue to what it was.
The Turkish troops that went to the Korean War were armed with Turkish Mausers. They couldn’t Keep up a high enough rate of fire and the enemy would overrun their position, but they were deadly with there bayonets, mountEd on their rifles or in hand.
The US gave them M1 Garands and the new M5 A1 bayonets. The Turks did not like the shorter bayonet so, they modified their Mauser bayonet to find the Garandos. I have about six modified Turkish Mauser bayonet in my collection now. A couple of years ago I picked up two Turkish M5 A1 bayonets. They have aluminum grips on them.
 
You are correct. I found the bayonet at a collector’s show in Alabama several years ago. The seller had no clue to what it was.
The Turkish troops that went to the Korean War were armed with Turkish Mausers. They couldn’t Keep up a high enough rate of fire and the enemy would overrun their position, but they were deadly with there bayonets, mountEd on their rifles or in hand.
The US gave them M1 Garands and the new M5 A1 bayonets. The Turks did not like the shorter bayonet so, they modified their Mauser bayonet to find the Garandos. I have about six modified Turkish Mauser bayonet in my collection now. A couple of years ago I picked up two Turkish M5 A1 bayonets. They have aluminum grips on them.
My Turkish buddy has one of those given to him by his father who trained in Basic with both the Garand and G3. Apparently "mauser" is a generic term over there for any military rifle regardless of actual manufacturer, so his Dad was perplexed when my buddy bought an actual bolt-action M98 Turk here and told him it wouldnt fit, lol.
 
The Turks did not like the shorter bayonet so, they modified their Mauser bayonet to fit the Garands.
What I find interesting is the way in which they made the modification. The first problem was that the hilt was too long, and the guard ring would have extended beyond the Garand's muzzle. So the obvious solution there was to add a spacer behind the guard. But the spacer could not be made too thick. A reasonably thin spacer would place the bayonet guard at the narrow part of the muzzle, in front of the gas cylinder lock. The hole in the spacer, accordingly, had to be made smaller than the guard hole in either the original Turkish bayonet, or the U.S. M1 bayonet.

The unusual configuration of the gas cylinder lock on Garands is precisely so that existing stocks of Springfield (and Krag) bayonets could be used.
 
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