Florida Town to Use Surveillance Cameras (+Background Checks on Every Car and Driver)

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Florida Town to Use Surveillance Cameras
Florida Town Will Soon Have Cameras and Computers Running Background Checks on Every Car and Driver

The Associated Press

MANALAPAN, Fla. April 27 — One of the nation's wealthiest towns will soon have cameras and computers running background checks on every car and driver that passes through.

Police Chief Clay Walker said cameras will take infrared photos recording a car's tag number, then software will automatically run the numbers through law enforcement databases. A 911 dispatcher is alerted if the car is stolen or is the subject of a "be on the lookout" warning.

Next to the tag number, police will have a picture of the driver, taken with another set of cameras upgraded versions of the standard surveillance cameras already in place.

If there is a robbery, police will be able to comb records to determine who drove through town on a given afternoon or evening.

"Courts have ruled that in a public area, you have no expectation of privacy," said Walker, one of 11 sworn officers who protects Manalapan's 321 residents. Still, Walker says Manalapan's data will be destroyed every three months.

Manalapan's town council authorized $60,000 in security upgrades last week after three burglaries this winter robbed residents of $400,000 in jewelry. The town averages two or three burglaries per year and residents demanded swift response, Town Manager Gregory Dunham said.

The 2000 Census listed Manalapan, about 15 miles south of West Palm Beach, among the nation's richest cities, with two out of every three homes worth more than $500,000.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20040427_985.html

Big brother is expanding his reach.
 
Sounds good to me. Makes us more like Europe, and they are more enlightened, right? Shouldn't bother you unless you've got something to hide, w4rma.
 
Imho, sarcasm isn't going to help stop and reverse this baloney, RileyMc. (I'm assuming you were being sacrastic.)

And I'm assuming this is just another vehicle you are using to take shots at GW. I'm also assuming you wouldn't mind this tactic if a Democrat were in the Whitehouse.

Look, w4rma, leftists like lots of central bureaucratic power. This kind of thing is a direct result of that philosophy. You want fed .gov providing you with prescription drugs, healthcare, education, subsidation of the "arts", abortion on demand, etc., et yada, et

:barf:

This is what you get. GW WON the election of 2000. He is POTUS.

Get over it.
 
Manalapan in an uber-rich enclave in in Palm Beach County that consists of a Ritz Carlton and few beach houses and a few other nice residential communities. The only reason you would even go through there is if you are cruising A-1-A and by the time they found anything out on you, you would already be out of town. These rich PBC beach communities are always doing stuff like this to keep the riff-raff out.....I wouldn't get too hyper-ventilated about it.
 
RileyMc, Republicans made excuses for the Patriot Act. You all are making excuses for the Patriot Act II and now I see you and tiberius are making (partisan) excuses to support cameras and background checks of everyone passing by.

You support fascism, on these issues, and you call it freedom.
 
So, news of a local action taken by a town in Florida WAS just a vehicle to attack a sitting President during wartime.

I rest my case.
 
You support fascism on this issue, and will not lift one hand to stop this, RileyMc. In fact you are making excuses for this.

I rest my case.

(Note, you were the one who brought up Bush first.)
 
now I see you and tiberius are making (partisan) excuses to support cameras and background checks of everyone passing by.
I suggest that you read what I wrote - How am I partisan? I said don't worry about it. It's a local issue in a small rich town. It doesn't affect you. The "patriot act" does.

I can't believe I'm actually replying to someone who shows no interest in guns. :(
 
Undermining a President engaged in a fight for our survival against islamoFASCISTS is, or should be, sedition. You appear to be a friend of our enemy. I really don't understand this venemous blind hatred for George Bush. It is worse than counterproductive. It is destructive.
 
Undermining a President engaged in a fight for our survival against islamoFASCISTS is, or should be, sedition. You appear to be a friend of our enemy. I really don't understand this venemous blind hatred for George Bush. It is worse than counterproductive. It is destructive.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.â€
--Theodore Roosevelt, 1918

“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country.â€
--Theodore Roosevelt

Besides RileyMc, come January 2005, all the love and respect partisan Republicans have for the President of the United States will disappear faster than the Clinton Surplus.
… read what I wrote - How am I partisan? I said don't worry about it. It's a local issue in a small rich town. It doesn't affect you. The "patriot act" does.
Tiberius, after rereading your post, I see no partisanship in your response at all. And it affects *everyone*, because anyone could find themselves traveling through the town. It also sets up a precedent, within the U.S., to expand to other areas of the United States. Allow one, and you make it much easier to allow the rest.
 
"Even Satan can quote Scripture for a purpose" Matt 4: 1-11

Taking some quotes by Teddy Roosevelt out of context and applying them to a wartime president does not make you a patriot.
 
Amazing,

No interest in guns, 2.5 posts a day on THR's political forum.

Are you on the off-roader's political forum too?

How about the Boy Scouts political forum?

If you simply want to argue with conservative forum members, there are so many to choose from. -This- is your hobby, so your motivation is clear. Enjoy yourself. But you really should go shooting, it's even more fun than arguing. :)
 
I agree with Standing Wolf - this will solve as many crimes as the ballistic fingerprinting here in Maryland.....ZERO. Big waste of money.

However, I too am concerned over the privacy issue. It's like being presumed guilty of something until the "system" proves you innocent. I don't know how the city is incorporated, but it seems to me that if cameras like this can be installed on public roads in rich towns, larger but poorer towns/cities will soon follow. It's one of those "feel good" things that people like to jump right on without considering the consequences.
 
Republicans made excuses for the Patriot Act. You all are making excuses for the Patriot Act II

uhhhhh......seems to me some of the most vehement objection comes from the right. George Bush did not singularly pass the Patriot Act, IIRC Congress was somehow involved. How many Democrats voted for PA I & II? Maybe you should take it up with them also.

BTW, w4rma, I just picked up a Yugo SKS. Do you have any suggestions for an *environmentally-friendly* way of removing the cosmoline?:)
 
uhhhhh......seems to me some of the most vehement objection comes from the right. George Bush did not singularly pass the Patriot Act, IIRC Congress was somehow involved. How many Democrats voted for PA I & II? Maybe you should take it up with them also.
No, the right-wingers in Congress voted in full support of the Patriot Act. The vast majority of the Nays came from Democrats.

Left-wing:
Senate vote:
NAYs ---1
Feingold (D-WI)
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00302

On Opposing the U.S.A. Patriot Act
Senator Russell Feingold
http://www.archipelago.org/vol6-2/feingold.htm

House vote:
75 Democratic Nays, 1 Independant Nay
http://internet.ggu.edu/university_library/if/Rollcallhr2975.html

Right-wing:
Senate vote:
0 Republican Nays

House vote:
3 Republican Nays
http://internet.ggu.edu/university_library/if/Rollcallhr2975.html

Bush Urges Renewal of Patriot Act
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77232
Ashcroft warns of Bush veto on scaled-back Patriot bill
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62330
With a Whisper, not a Bang | Bush signs parts of Patriot Act II into law — stealthily
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56630
 
I gotta agree with w4rma, this stinks to hell and back. BTW, I too fail to see where he mentioned Bush in the initial post.
 
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