Flying with handguns ??

[Buck13]

Airlines will only let you check in 11 pounds of ammo in your other bag. I have never figured out where that number came from.

Eleven pounds is five kilograms. I know nothing about international air regs, but that is a nice round number in metric units. I'll bet you a dollar that's where that number comes from.

 

[Tn Tom]

i had a little trouble locating the gun at the arrival point. It was not on the carrasol but was being held by a security person (long before TSA) at his podium all other passangers had left the area and I was still standing there. I saw this guy sitting at his podium watching me and I walked over him actually I only saw him by accident as he was some distance away making no attempt to signal me or anything. I walked over to him and told him what I was looking for and he reached under the podium and handed me the checked bag that did have a big sticker "Firearm Inside" this was at Ohara.
Moral to the story ask the checker where you will find the bag on the other end if the info is not offered. I never thought it would be any different. silly me

 

[NavyLCDR]

I was one of the baggage handlers. I have checked in thousands of firearms.
Step 1. Make sure the firearm is unloaded and that there is NO ammunition in the hard sided case or the larger bag that it is inside of.

Depends upon airline policy. There are no Federal regulations against having ammunition in the same hard sided case with gun, or in the same luggage with the gun case. The airlines I typically fly on allow the ammunition to be locked in the same case as the gun itself.

http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-id...aa19b62b2f7&node=49:9.1.3.5.9.2.10.6&rgn=div8

49 CFR 1540.11:

"(d) Ammunition. This section does not prohibit the carriage of ammunition in checked baggage or in the same container as a firearm. Title 49 CFR part 175 provides additional requirements governing carriage of ammunition on aircraft."

Step 2. Declare it at the ticket counter, show it is unloaded ( they should never touch your gun),

There is no Federal requirement to show that it is unloaded or for the airline to verify. If they want to verify it is unloaded, they will ask. Otherwise, showing the gun to someone when not asked to is only asking for trouble.

sign the Orange Declaration, and put that into the hard case.

Again, wrong - unless the hard sided gun case is going by itself. Otherwise the declaration tag goes outside the locked gun case, but inside the luggage the gun case is being transported in. That way TSA can verify the declaration tag is properly signed without having to unlock the gun case.

Step 3. Lock the case with a GOOD lock ( not a TSA lock) , also lock the larger bag.

Just for clarification, the luggage containing the gun case either gets locked with a TSA lock, or unlocked. If the luggage containing the gun case is locked with a standard lock, TSA will be more than happy to include the broken pieces of the lock inside the luggage with their inspection notice.

Airlines will only let you check in 11 pounds of ammo in your other bag. I have never figured out where that number came from.

http://safetravel.dot.gov/index_ammunition.html

"US DOT regulations do not limit the total number of packages or the total weight that may be transported in checked baggage; however, the ammunition must be for "personal use." Many air carriers limit the amount of small arms ammunition that may be carried in checked baggage to 11 lbs., (5 kg) consistent with international standards. When in doubt, check with your air carrier."

Just PM me if you have any questions.

It would probably be a better idea to read the Federal regulations and written airline poicies rather than asking someone's opinion, which may or may not be the same as the written facts.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

If it were me I would FedEx your gun next day air to yourself at your destination. No FFL necessary if YOU receive your own gun.

 

[NavyLCDR]

If it were me I would FedEx your gun next day air to yourself at your destination. No FFL necessary if YOU receive your own gun.

1. You would have to make a separate trip to FEDEX to ship your gun.

2. If the gun was going out of state, Federal law would require you to notify FEDEX in writing the shipment contained the firearm 18 USC 922 (e).
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/922

3. Once you notified FEDEX in writing at their counter, they should refuse your shipment because it violates their own terms and conditions of service.
http://www.fedex.com/us/service-guide/terms/express-ground/index.html

4. Assuming they accepted your shipment in violation of their own terms, it would cost you $70 - $80 for the one way shipment.

5. Ammunition can't go by FEDEX air, so you have to find a separate way of getting your ammo there.

6. Someone has to be at the delivery location to sign for the gun, which may be any time from 8:00 am to 8:00 pm assuming it actually gets there the next day.

7. All of the above must be repeated to get the handgun home.

Hmmm..... if that is really what you want to do...... Hundreds, if not thousands of people every day just spend an extra 15-20 minutes at an airline counter, sign one tag, and have their guns and ammunition waiting for them at their destination airport; and if they have a checked bag anyway, they don't pay any extra for the gun itself.

 

[Paul7]

Flying with a gun is no big deal, I just use the equivalent of a 'truck gun' in case it is lost. For me it is a 20 year old worn police turn-in Colt 1911.

 

[GRIZ22]

Seems about half the time I fly with a handgun in my checked baggage, the gate agent upgrades my seat with a wink and a nod if there's an upgrade available.


How does the gate agent know you have a handgun in your checked luggage?

 

[herrwalther]

How does the gate agent know you have a handgun in your checked luggage?

Xray vision. That is why I wear lead lined underwear.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I should have known better than to post in one of these threads. There is always someone who tells you, you are wrong even though you have already done what you suggested and they only read about it.

I'm done here and should have never started!

 

[NavyLCDR]

I should have known better than to post in one of these threads. There is always someone who tells you, you are wrong even though you have already done what you suggested and they only read about it.

I'm done here and should have never started!

You are more than welcome to refute any of the facts that I posted with something more than "Well, I did it!" I just think it might be important for people to know to expect to be turned away at the FEDEX counter, if the employee at the counter actually knows FEDEX policies. Also, it would be a shame for someone to be prosectuted for violating 18 USC 922 (e) because FEDEX was not informed in writing of the firearm atttempting to be shipped against their company policy.