trackskippy
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What hell. Pay attention. You obviously havent been. Unless of course, youre just trying to pick through "anything" Ive said and try and spin it off into something I didnt. Its starting to feel like Ive got a stalker.What???
If shot placement is a given, then whats the problem? Will a properly placed FMJ kill just the same? Answer that question. Seems to have worked that way for me. Seems to have worked in millions of cases around the world for centuries too. I dont think their terminal effectiveness is in question.This is a discussion about the terminal effectiveness of FMJ's. Shot placement is a given. Those who enter a discussion like this and only talk about shot placement, do so because they know little of the subject at hand. That said, shot placement does not make up for poor bullet selection, any more than good bullet selection makes up for poor shot placement.
So the fact that they use it, for whatever reason, and it obviously works, is supposed to be negated because you have a different experience hunting? And Ive got a bit more experience than you, by a decade or two, and seem to have had a totally different experience with full patch bullets. Ive seen deer shot with a single .22lr that dropped in their tracks, and Ive seen deer hit with a 30-06 with soft points, run off. Ive seen deer shot with GI ball out of an M1 and they dropped pretty much where they stood. None of those knew what they were shot with, and they are all still dead.Whether we signed The Hague Convention or not, we still abide by it. The militaries of the world do no use FMJ because it's the most effective. In fact, I feel that much dumber for having to even say this. What the hell does it matter anyway? Am I supposed to ignore 35yrs of actual field experience in light of such a sophomoric point?
I said good placement or poor placement will likely bring the same result, regardless the bullet. Thats all. As I said above, you seem to want to constantly twist what I say into something else. Show me where Im wrong.I'm responding to your rhetoric that basically implies that bullet selection does not matter, all that matters is shot placement. Those wer e your words.
Nice shooting. Was that done from a rest? Or from a field position, under stress, and on demand? There is a difference you know, and especially with things that might be hunting you back.Nice try at the passive-aggressive insult. Before I take to the field with a handgun, I do this until it's second nature.
Everybody seems to have a pic like that, and wants you to think they shoot like that, all the time. Lets see the targets where youre drawing, moving, and shooting as you go and see what they look like.
LOL. So what? You think youre the only one?So when it comes time to "poke a hole" in something living, it is also second nature.
No doubt, and Ive never said any different. What I have constantly stated is, would a FMJ that made that same exact hit have killed whatever it was any less dead?We also know from experience that while hardball will poke a smaller than bullet diameter hole in everything, a large diameter WFN will remove a quadrant of the heart.
Pay attention now, Ill say it one more time, since you seem to have some reading comprehension problems. I normally use quality SD type ammo in my carry guns, and the appropriate ammo for what it is Im hunting in the guns I hunt with. "Normally". If all I have in the gun is FMJ, I dont/wouldnt have a problem using it, if I needed to. Im not telling anyone to make a choice based on that, Im simply saying Im comfortable with my skills and using FMJ if I had to.
Is that really so hard to understand? Or is this something else with you?