FN FAL Entreprise type 3 reciver Need help

[Frankadank]

I purchase an STG58C(FN FAL)from Atlantic Fire Arms for $925 with shipping, I live in california and it is my understanding that absolutly no automatics in Cali. Atlantic has a California Legal section, and the FAL was listed as legal because it was listed as Semi-Automatic. The upper receiver has Enterprise Arms Type 03 Metric. The Lower Reciver however has 3 position for its selector switch, starting from top right going clockwise there is an S then a R and then it has an A. So I called Enterprise Arms Inc, and asked them if the A meant Automatic, turns out it was automatic but the guy said not to mess with it because people where having truble with it, that it may cause bamage to the gun, he whent on to say I should only have it in the S and R. Could this be BS becaouse they know California doesnt allow fully Aoutomatic weapons or could they be bypassing that law because of the fact that the FAL is considerd a battle rifle with a full rifle cartridge. Any 1 else out there with an enterprise arms inc FN FAL and do you fire it in automatic mode, has it broken down?If i am wronge about cali laws correct me please this is my first gun so yes i am a nub, been to the range twice with no problem with the gun firing the 308 russian bear ammo from cheaper then dirt. i will thank people for the feed back now so i dont miss no 1 THANK YOU

 

[Mooseman]

I'd be willing to bet the guts of that rifle won't allow full auto. If that's the case it would make sense for them to have installed a pin stop to prevent the switch from going to the A position where it could damage it. Can you return it so one could be installed or you could be sent one that functions as it should? Honestly I've never heard of this happening before, any chance you could post a picture of the switch?

 

[Frankadank]

Tryed taking pictures but it asked me to enter URL and i took them with my phone. I can put the selector swich all the way to the A position, the lower consists of Hammer, Hammer spring, selector switch, sear and triger with a spring in between, and a metal flat piece wich wiil not allow pins from triger and hammer fronm falling out. In A mode (wich i didnt try firing at the time because I didnt know at the time to be atomatic) the selector switch has a big machined cut witch will allow the triger to push the sear all the way up and it will not let the hammer lock to be fired again wih the pull of the triger, so if you hold it, the hammer will allways be free to strike the bolt that has the firing pin once it returns forward after a shot

 

[Deus Machina]

If they sent you an actual automatic without all the tax stamps and paperwork involved, they're in a whole heap of trouble as far as the federal government is concerned.

It would be VERY OBVIOUS if they sent you an actual full-auto, on the paperwork and shipping side.

My bet is that the A on there is either non-functional (which would explain the 'problems' with it--interference with other parts) or just actually engages the semi setting. I'm unfamiliar with the inner workings of a FAL trigger, so I can't say for sure.

 

[M1key]

It won't go automatic on "A". May cause a simple malfunction (bolt hang-up) though. Buy yourself a 2-position selector switch online. I am surprised they didn't include one with the rifle. Just shoot it in the semi-mode and you will be fine.

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[Z-Michigan]

It won't go automatic on "A". May cause a simple malfunction (bolt hang-up) though. Buy yourself a 2-position selector switch online. I am surprised they didn't include one with the rifle. Just shoot it in the semi-mode and you will be fine.

100% correct.

With your semiauto gun, in the "A" setting the hammer will follow the bolt. This may freak you out because it's similar, outwardly, to how a true auto would work. But it will not actually fire automatically or even double (barring some other malfunctions). This is legal and fairly common with FAL builds from anyone other than DSA and Century which use safety selectors that prevent this.

HOWEVER, I would strongly recommend going to a semiauto-only selector like DSA sells, which will prevent the lever moving to the "A" position, thereby potentially preventing unpleasant questions from people (especially blue-shirted badge-wearing people) who are not expert on the FAL platform, and also preventing any hammer follow which can screw things up in other ways. I especially like the "l1a1" style for metric guns that DSA sells, but the standard style is fine too. Replacing the selector is a 10-second no-tools job - open the receiver halves, rotate the current selector to vertical, pull it out toward you, insert the new one with the handle vertical and push it in, rotate down and you're done.

 

[Frankadank]

thanks alot, very good info. thnk you every 1.

 

[Robert]

The upper receiver is milled in such a way as to prevent the full auto disconnect from being installed. In short there is a slot that is simply not cut into the semi auto receiver, so there is no chance that your FAL would fire full auto, even on the A setting. Unless you had one heck of a malfunction. Also, unless the fire selector is cut to be full auto it will not fire as such even if it turns all the way to A.

 

[Z-Michigan]

Also, unless the fire selector is cut to be full auto it will not fire as such even if it turns all the way to A.

FALs are a bit different. Chances are excellent that OP's FAL in fact has a selector that would allow full-auto fire, IF (I repeat, IF) the other parts of the gun were set up for full auto. This is different from most other semiautos where the ATF considers a selector allowing such fire to itself be a regulated part.

NB DSA makes selectors that both cannot be moved to "A" and wouldn't allow firing at that position. Century makes or has made selectors that can be moved to "A" but provide correct semiauto operation in that position.