Folding Stock Rifles?

[Zak Smith]

You don't see match rifles with folding stocks for a reason.

I shoot the AI-AW 2.0 folder, and a lot of other people use the AICS folder stock on Remington and Surgeon actions. In matches.

-z

 

[BigSoundRacing]

I like the folder on the FAL, the SPR Stock gives me extension for my shoulders and set the rifle up for a cheek rest and scope.



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[GunTech]

Zak, the AI is hardly what I think of as a folder (though it is). The number of folders that are decent is miniscule. And I wasn't really thinking of tac matches

 

[Navy87Guy]

Navyguy, what's the brand of stock you've got on your Saiga? I'd like to have one.

Unfortunately, it's a Command Arms Accessory stock. I say "unfortunately" because I didn't find out until after the fact that they are made in Israel (despite the big "CAA" logo stamped on it). So ity doesn't count as a compliance part for 922R. I like it so much, though, that I'm not willing to give it up -- so I got a US-made gas piston and some mag parts to reach the magic number for compliance (I had the same problem with the pistol grip!)

Jim

 

[MyRoad]

I have a Butler Creek folder on my Mini-14, which makes it compact enough to fit inside a backpack when camping.

I ordered one for my SKS, but canceled the order when I found out I'd have to switch out 10 parts or be committing a felony.

 

[nalioth]

I ordered one for my SKS, but canceled the order when I found out I'd have to switch out 10 parts or be committing a felony.

It's not switching out 10 parts, but only having 10 foreign parts (or less) in the weapon.

Here are the relevant parts in an SKS Carbine:

1. Receiver

2. Barrel

3. Bolt

4. Bolt carrier

5. Gas piston

6. Trigger housing

7. Trigger

8. Hammer

9. Sear

10. Disconnector

11. Stock

12. Handguard

13. Magazine body

14. Follower

So by using buying your stock, you'd only need a US made 10 round mag assembly to bring your countable foreign parts down to 10. If you have a Yugo M59/66 you have an extra countable part:

15. muzzle attachment

 

[MyRoad]

So by using buying your stock, you'd only need a US made 10 round mag assembly to bring your countable foreign parts down to 10. If you have a Yugo M59/66 you have an extra countable part:

Well, that's a different take. I wouldn't want to put detachable magazines on this gun, so I'd have to figure something else out. Since I've read more than one interpretation of this law (or I've been consistently misinterpreting it), I'm still not sure its worth it to mess with it. But thanks for clarifying.

 

[accomplice]

I have an Ace folder on my Sig 556 and love it. It locks up solid and makes it pretty compact when folded.

 

[nalioth]

Well, that's a different take. I wouldn't want to put detachable magazines on this gun

They make US made duplicates of the 10 round magazine. They're not any more detachable than the originals.

and I was just using the mag as an easy way to compliance, you could use a gas piston and fire control part or any other US made parts from the list, so you had a total of 4 US parts on the gun (the stock counts for 2 parts).

 

[Zak Smith]

I actually shot that gun in an F-class match a few months ago.

 

[GunTech]

Well, you can get a decent folder on a $4,000 rifle. There are a handful of decent folders, and a huge number of worthless ones.

 

[Zak Smith]

Nah, I agree of course. I just don't like blanket statements when the problem isn't an inherent attribute of the class, but of most of the instances. The Masada folder also seemed pretty solid and didn't affect ergonomics.

 

[cameron.personal]

I was at the dealership dropping off my car for service when the guy remarked "I didn't know you played tennis" when I got the Tennis Bag from my rear seat...

I said, "You should see my serve!"

 

[DMK]

I've got a DSA Para folder on my FAL, a Romanian Sidefolder on my SAR1 AK and a repro M1A1 folder on my CMP Inland Carbine. I'm happy with all of them. They all work well while shooting, fold tight and compact, and seem pretty sturdy.

The AK was the first folder and I bought it mosty because I wanted to stash the gun ready to go in my house. The particular spot I had in mind was too small for a full length rifle. I liked the utility of it so much, that I went with folders on my FAL and carbine too.

As soon as I can get some soft points tested through it, my carbine's going to find a quiet corner in my car's trunk for road trips.

 

[col_tapiocca]

Folding stocks are handy!

I only own two rifles with folding stock.

Upper is a Bulgarian made Arsenal AK-Klone with underfolder
Lower is a Ruger Mini 14 with factory side-folder


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In most EU-Countries folding stocks are Ugh! (Forbidden by law) But in Switzerland it's lawful. I guess Switzerland is an exception in this matter

 

[DougW]

How about a folding #4mk1?

 

[coyote_jr]

I have an nice Romanian SAR1 that I could put a folding wire stock on just to have folding stock, but I keep coming back to the question, what for?

Very simply, I only bought my underfolder because it can be hidden more effectively in my car should I ever need to.

 

[W.E.G.]

Hey, whatever it takes to keep the students happy.

 

[PTK]

I was at the dealership dropping off my car for service when the guy remarked "I didn't know you played tennis" when I got the Tennis Bag from my rear seat...

I said, "You should see my serve!"

You're my hero.

 

[Dave R]

I put a Romanian side folder on my AK to celebrate the expiration of the Assault Weapons Ban. It works better than I expected. Its rock-solid when extended (and folded, for that matter.) I can get a decent cheek weld.

Its cool, but I still think about putting the original stock back on, just because the gun feels more comfortable.

And, after a bit of fun experimenting, I'm convinced that it takes a different skill set than I have to be able to shoot it accurately from the hip or any other folded position.

 

[FMJMIKE]

I just got my first folder.......I love it........ Rock-Ola M1 Carbine

 

[esq_stu]

For traveling - fits in a smaller case;
For trunk - fits in a case that looks like something besides a gun case (bat bag, fishing rod bag, etc.) to avoid theft;
For storage - takes up less space;
For carrying in something that looks like something besides a gun case to avoid panicking gun paranoids.

It has nothing to do with concealment. I'd settle for easy breakdown weapons such as a rapidly removable barrel and stock so I can fly with my clays shotgun packed in something that does not scream "GUN!" Same for my other guns. But I hear something insidious in the question.

Zumbo saw no point to the AR - they looked too much like evil terrorist guns to possibly have any legitimate use.
I guess there are some more Zumbos out there - if it looks evil, it cannot possibly have any legitimate use.

But whether it has legitimate use or not, there are rights and there are rights. Leave this one alone.