Premium Sauces wrote:
Liability/responsibility is not always exclusively on one party. The blamed can be shared around. This one is very easy.
-She is guilty of manslaughter, based on extreme recklessness causing death (the lie of rape)
-He should be charged with murder, and can plead extreme passion as a defense to murder, which can reduce the verdict to manslaughter if the jury buys it - here, they will - if ever there was a good extreme passion defense, it's this case.
So, they are both guilty of manslaughter. He should get 2-5 years, and she should get 10-20. He most certainly should not get off scot free. What he did was a homocide. You don't take the law into your own hands. In fact, this case itself, with the lie/mistake, is THE perfect poster child case demonstrating WHY it's illegal to take the law into your own hands, when it seems as though somebody "needs killin".
I couldn’t disagree MORE.
I fail to see the blame that should be “shared around.”
I DO see how some want to armchair quarterback a difficult situation and pass judgment.
Let’s see.
A man sees his wife in a vehicle with a strange man. She indicates that she has been raped, and the man is trying to speed off in the vehicle with said wife.
That sounds a LOT like some of the recent rape/abductions that we have seen in the news lately—those typically end with a search team finding a raped, naked, beaten, and very dead woman in the woods.
I am SHOCKED at how narrowly some people wish to close the window of self-defense.
Explain to me EXACTLY why I would believe that my family WASN’T in danger if I were in that situation.
Explain to me EXACTLY what kind of man stands there with his thumb up his butt watching what he should absolutely believe is an abductor taking his wife.
What exactly should have been his thought process?
Should he have questioned his wife’s statement?
Should he have took some time to reflect upon the nature of his relationship with his wife?
Should he have carefully considered the ramifications of potential charges?
Guys, by the time he did ANY of the above, she could be dead.
We routinely talk about 911 not being able to save you and “When seconds count, the police are minutes away.” Is this what passes for self-reliance in our society today??
Have you had a detailed discussion with your wife about your views on this? How has that changed her views of you as a husband, protector, and generally – well, a MAN?”
Right now, she is probably considering her options and re-evaluating her future with you.
If I am ever blessed to have a daughter, I hope to God that she doesn’t marry a man with such a viewpoint. He’d have a LOT more to worry about than legal proceedings if he let something like could have happened occur with my daughter. He’d have to pack, clean out the bank accounts, obtain an assumed identity, and move to Uganda.
For those that believe that the man should be convicted of some lesser crime, have you considered that you are basically stating that you wish the man to become a convicted felon and lose civil rights—including the RKBA—for this act?
Frankly, this is PRECISELY the kind of person that I WANT to bear arms in our society. He is more likely to come to the aid of those in need than a vast majority of people in our society.
And what future threat does he represent? I see him as operating in a manner that is honorable and just—even if we can’t say the same of those around him.
I don’t know… I wonder what the hell has become of our society where it could even be suggested that he is guilty of a crime based upon the circumstances.
For any of you that want to throw this man under a bus for acting to save his wife from an abductor, I sure as hell hope that YOUR wife is able to take care of herself—I doubt she could count on you. And I hope that she knows this—for her own sake.
I hope I haven't struck a nerve with anyone-- but I DO hope that I've made some think about things.
At any rate, that's my take on it.
-- John
