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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by geegee, Apr 23, 2004.

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  1. geegee

    geegee Member

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    Where were you born, and if you had to live there now, how are the gun laws?

    It's a slow night, so why not ask this extremely provocative gun question?

    I was born in Munich, Germany. If I had to live there now, well...I'm really not too sure how the gun laws are (as regards handguns, anyway). I'm pretty confident that rifles and shotguns are okay, but handguns? Not too comfortable guessing about that. One thing's for sure-there's no way they beat what I have in Texas! :D

    At least not this year. :scrutiny:
     
  2. 9mmepiphany

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    i was born in Hong Kong BCC, back when it was a british crown colony. it was even illegal to have a BB rifle back there, who knows what it is like now that they turned it back over to the PRC.

    i do know that one of the leading airsoft shops is just off the main drag in kowloon...so somthing may have changed with the departure of the brits
     
  3. Black Majik

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    I was born in Taipei, Taiwan. Moved down to California as a baby, so I dont remember mucha bout it.

    As for the gun laws there, I believe its strict. Or possibly a ban there.

    Ask TwoBlink. He know's all the affairs that occur in Taiwan and China. :D
     
  4. Jack19

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    Scotland. I won't even go back to visit.
     
  5. ID_shooting

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    I was born in seattle, and wouldn't go back to save my life, does that count?

    But, I have lived in foriegn countires. The only one I would ever consider going back to is Canada. We all know thier gun laws, but the part I would live in mostly chooses to ignor them.
     
  6. geegee

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    My mother's side of our family is British (I lived in England till I was about 4 years old), and I have an uncle in Scotland that served in The Seventh Seaforth Highlanders during the Second World War. He fought at Tobruk and El Alamein (I have a few interesting photo's of him taken back then), but my mother has told me he's pretty much an anti-gun type.

    Each time I read about the silliest new anti-gun law being enacted in Great Britain, I think about the type of people that once dominated that great nation sixty years ago, and have to wonder "What the heck happened?" My own mother lived in London during the Battle of Britain, and has some incredible stories of what the British people did to deal with the Nazi bombing attacks. Now it's a land of sheeple that will incarcerate a homeowner for defending his property and the lives of his family. :fire: :confused:
     
  7. Denver

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    New Guinea.

    Going back is only a fantasy. When it was a protectorate of Australia, (until 1972), the gun laws were already "these natives certainly cannot be trusted with firearms". That was before Australia herself went ghastly.

    Now it's much like Somalia, from what I have heard. Third world potentates and gang-rule. Tribal warfare; it just never seems to go out of style in the third world.
     
  8. KRAUTGUNNER

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    @ geegee:

    In Germany you can own all sorts of handguns, pistols and revolvers.

    Here, there are no restrictions regarding caliber or magazine capacity.

    You can buy just anything like .50AE, .475 Linebaugh, .500 S&W or a Beretta 92 or SIG 226 with 20-round magazines.

    But you must cut through miles of red tape to obtain a firearms permit and you can't buy unlimited numbers of handguns (the maximum is 5-6 handguns for "normal" shooters).
     
  9. geegee

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    Krautgunner-thanks for that interesting update. I'm pleasantly surprised by that information.
    Would that amount be per year, or totally?
     
  10. KRAUTGUNNER

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    TOTALLY of course........ :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :banghead: :barf:
     
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    KRAUTGUNNER, don't they have to keep them locked up at the gun club or something? IOW, you can't have them at home, right?
     
  12. Ala Dan

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    Institute. :uhoh: (LOL :D )

    Best Wishes,
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    I don't know if I'm allowed to play, But I was born in Tokyo to American parents. we moved here when I was 5

    From what I understand it is illegal for civilians to own metal guns. So I guess I would have to make do with a Glock:D

    Japan does have one of the largest fast draw communitiea in the world though, they just have to use plastic repliguns
     
  14. KRAUTGUNNER

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    No, we must keep firearms locked up in government approved gun safes at home.
     
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    Was born in Azerbaijan, USSR. No guns for us lowly civilians.

    Now that money can buy anything in the former Soviet republics and bribed officials conveniently look the other way , I am sure that some people own some interesting toys.

    Julie
     
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    KRAUTGUNNER, are any of those safes quickly accessible or are you basically unarmed in your house?
     
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    I was born and raised (and spent most of my life) in South Africa. The gun laws were pretty reasonable: guns were individually licensed, rather than the owner being licensed for any number of guns, but you could get pretty much anything you liked except semi-auto long guns, which were banned except for those in rural areas facing a more serious terrorist threat. However, under the African National Congress government (in power since 1994), there has been a major crackdown on the RKBA. At present, you're allowed only ONE handgun for self-defence, and a rifle, a shotgun, etc. More than 4 firearms, and you have to qualify (in theoretical and practical tests) as a regular hunter - and you still won't get more handguns... :fire:

    Good reason not to return there (at least on a permanent basis!).
     
  18. KRAUTGUNNER

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    @ ducktapehero:

    Those safes are as quickly accessible as you are able to unlock the safe with the safe key.

    The problem is, that no other person except the firearms permit holder is allowed to have access to the safe, not even the spouse.

    Therefore the safe must be kept locked all the time and the keys must be out of the reach of your wife/husband and the children.

    Only in single-person-households where noone other is living in the house than the permit holder, he/she can carry a gun or put one in the nightstand for protection while asleep. If he/she leaves the house, all firearms must be put back in the safe.



    :banghead:
     
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    My best friend is from Yugoslavia (or whatever they call it these days). She has expressed that weapons were not difficult to obtain but has no ideas if they are actually legal or not. I think that is probably par for the course in that nation.

    As an asside having come from a country with a messed up government she is one of the VERY few females I have met in the Seattle area that has an appreciation for the RKBA in general. We were talking about politics and i mentioned that i really didnt like Bush very much but, that i was likely to vote for him anyways. She said that i should vote for Kerry (she has been influenced by ultra liberal coworkers on that regard). I responed with "Kerry wants to take my guns away". She said "Oh, ok that makes sense, don't vote for him." end of conversation. I really love people that have such clarity on the issues that matter to them.
     
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    Preacherman, I recently saw a south african anti-gun website wailing and ranting about how dangerous it was to be a police officer in SA, and proposing debate on disarming the police to make them safer :scrutiny:
     
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    I'm was born in Germany, am living in Germany and don't plan to emigrate in the forseeable future.
    There are indeed some limits as to what kind of guns you are allowed to own as a sports shooter, hunter, or collector, but there's still a lot available. Just yesterday I saw a legal (!) PSG-lookalike HK41.
    I own an HK SL8 and if I'd find them at reasonable prices, I'd buy a bunch of 30rd G36-mags for it. (Ok, I'm not allowed to _use_ the mags in the gun, BUT I'm allowed to buy, own and modify them in a way that they'd fit in my SL8)
    And what could keep me from unlocking my safe when I return home and lock it when I leave? My guns are just as accessible as the bottle of cola in the fridge or the telephone right next to my computer. I'm allowed to handle my weapons inside my home no matter who else is present. I just have to take care that they are not abused by someone.

    KRAUTGUNNER, how and where do you clean your guns? At the range when only other gun-owners are present? :D
     
  22. Lone Star

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    C. Yeager-

    I thought your best friend was Bud Anderson. ?? Which reminds me: I just bought one of those metal models of a P-51 Mustang. Glad to see that they offer replicas of both your Glamorous Glen and his Old Crow.

    Or, are you a different C. Yeager?

    Lone Star
     
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    I am A c_yeager but not THE c_yeager. Well, actually i think im the definitive article but, most history books and just about everyone else would dissagree.

    There are a lot of "Yeagers" out there. As well as Jaggers Jaegers Yaegers etc. It appears that our two families got the same clerk at ellis island.
     
  24. LawDog

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    You know, that's a really good question.

    I was born on the island of Malta to American parents. I know that when we were there in the sixties, Dad kept his hunting rifles at our apartment.

    These days, I couldn't tell you. I'm pretty sure that ownership of any firearm requires a police permit, but that's just the impression I've got - I can't back that up with any quotes from Maltese law.

    I would, very much, like to go back for a visit.

    LawDog
     
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    No guns allowed unless you are the police here, and even then, you have to be a beat-cop. Some traffic cops only wear holsters..

    Airsofts only, and BB's will land you in jail...

    It's about as draconian as it gets here as far as guns..

    What is ironic is that basically guns flow into Taiwan freely from China. The entire country is an island, and there's absolutely no way to catch small fishing boats bringing anything from China..

    If you want to, you can own a hunting rifle; but you would then have to prove that you depend on hunting to provide food for the family (and that usually goes along with an address somewhere in the mountains) the gun AND the bullets have to be registered... There is a cop that will go around and count how many rounds you have fired that year, and you have to be able to show the casings. (Thus, it makes it nearly impossible to own a semi-auto, only bolt actions) Oddly enough, my friend Sheila's dad has one. But the paperwork (mountains of paper work from what I hear) got so rediculous that he I think got the barrel concreted (ouch!) and now it just sits on his mantel..
     
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