For those that are experimental with their brass frame remies

[Rogue Coder]

http://www.scorrs.org/articles/LilBruiser.htm

I might (within the next few YEARS) consider doing this. This is an interesting project. What do you guys think?

 

[BHP FAN]

I saw that a few years back, and got into an on line compost storm over it. There is no reason in the world, other than lawyers, that it ''can't be done''. Back in the 70's I had a Navy ''Colt'' gunsmith's conversion in .38 S&W, with a brass frame. It worked fine, and never stretched, with black powder hand loads, or Remington Smokeless factory loads [the gun was finally stolen while I was in the Navy] The reason for the disclaimer is that in a modern caliber like .38 special ,with a stout load, you would be wandering into unsafe territory. How do you control people's hand loads, or tell them that some factory ammo is too hot? You can't, hence the disclaimer. Did you know that bumble bees can't fly?Scientists have done wind tunnel tests, and run data on computers and discovered this interesting ''fact'', but no one seems to have informed the bees.

 

[BHP FAN]

You put 15 gr. of 3F Goex into a .36 revolver's chamber, a wonder wad, and cram it down, the gun works like it's supposed to. You cram 15 gr. of 3F Goex and a wonder wad into a .38 case, and suddenly the gun blows up? I think not.I will not however, be held responsible for other's stupidity. Nor should THR. When you go against the manufacturer's warranty you are on your own.

 

[Montenegrin]

Nice,I never saw conversion in brass frame,and I was wondering why it is not safe to load it with normal blackpowder loads.

 

[Rogue Coder]

Here are my thoughts: the disclaimer is there for the billy-bob "hold my beer cousin and watch me shoot this har gun" people. I completely agree that normal off the shelf smokeless ammo will certainly do some SERIOUS damage to a brass frame gun. Now that I have said that, if you buy factory "cowboy ammo", the old black powder ammo stuff or "roll your own", there should not be any problems with it.

Remember, IANAL, NOR do I say "try it and it will be all okay". Yes, you are all on your own for experimentation and if you want the info for someone who has done it in the past, the link is provided.

 

[Gaucho Gringo]

Kirst now sells a .22 conversion for the 1858 Remington. It can be used with both brass and steel frames. I am saving to get one.

 

[Busyhands94]

i was thinking about getting that .22 conversion for the 1858 Remington, but decided on something cheaper and more practical to me. rather than spend the money and have to convince my mother to let me get fixed cartridges and all that, i am going to get an 1851 Colt brasser in .44 and line the cylinder and barrel so it's a .22 cap and ball sixgun. they sell them at Cabelas for real cheap, about $140. i can get the necessary liners for cheap too, i have the tools necessary to make the forcing cone and i have access to a lath to turn the barrel down to the right size so i can line the barrel. if i can shoot 4 grains of Triple Seven in my NAA Super Companion with the ballistics it gets i am thinking that i could fit more without any worries of stretching the brass frame. probably seven to ten grains. but that's still probably going to be fine. it's .22 caliber, i think even the Colt design with a brass frame can take that low pressure. i think that would make a might fine rabbit or squirrel gun if i get good enough. heck, if i can shoot well with a NAA .22 mag and be good enough to hunt with that i think that a 5 or even an 8 inch barrel would rock to have. so it would be kind of like an 1851 Colt in .22 Magnum, i could feed it those 30 grain bullets that NAA sells for the companions and i could use Triple Seven. this should be a really cool gunsmithing project if i do it just right.

Levi

 

[Rogue Coder]

If it were me, I would not waste the money on a .22 conversion cylinder. You can get a .22LR/.22MAG combo revolver for $160 and have that much more fun.

 

[BHP FAN]

more guns are more better.

 

[MCgunner]

I got .22s. I got .38s. I even got .357 magnums and a .45 Colt. Hell, I've got 9x19s and .45ACPs and a 9x18 Mak and a 9x17 (.380), and........

My cap and balls are for cap and ball. Not saying I wouldn't buy a converter in .45 Colt for a Remington, maybe, but it's not high on my list. Rather just buy 2 more spare cap and ball cylinders for a hundred bucks from Cabelas.

 

[Busyhands94]

i would rather buy another gun than some fancy accessory that costs more than the gun i intend to put it in, but that's just me.

 

[junkman_01]

Levi,

The gun can be shipped directly to you and so can the conversion cylinder. Put them together and you have a cartridge firing revolver with no Federal registration, background check, and no FFL fees! Some folks despise big brother looking over their shoulder every step of the way.