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Foreign Gun Owners(outside US members)...Show your stuff...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by nwilliams, Sep 30, 2008.

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  1. Heggis

    Heggis Member

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    My IPSC Open gun... SVI .38 Super Comp with 6MOA C-more on Dawson mount.

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    My latest little one, Les Baer Premier II .45 for SS shooting :)

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    My two blinkers...
    Browning Buckmark Plus with 4MOA OKO and silencer

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    Browning Buckmark Contour with 2MOA Aimpoint CompC3

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    Silhouette revolver Dan Wesson SuperMag .357 Maximum

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    Moving on to rifle section...
    Tikka M55 with a Hart barrel chambered to .260 Remington with Zeiss 6-24x56 #63

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    My moosehunting gun. CZ 550 Magnum .458 WinMag with Meostar R1 1-4x22 KDot

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    Little rimfire CZ 452 Style with Swift 6-18x44 Mildot and silencer

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    And finally my shotty... Winchester 1100 Black Shadow

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    So there you have it... Foreigner with pretty much american guns :D
     
  2. max popenker

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    Dammit, looks like even our British friends have more guns that I do ;)

    honestly, right now I'm down to just ONE gun, 12 gauge pump for HD and general plinking; however right now I'm in the process of the getting permit for my next gun.

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    Oh yes, i also have this one right now on my belt, in OWB holster...
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  3. ridata

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    max popenker ... doesn't that handgun *hurt*? It sure looks like it would.
     
  4. max popenker

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    yes, it does; at least, to some extent :evil:
    This is less-lethal thing called "Osa" (Wasp)
    It shoots 15mm (.60") rubber slugs with ME of some 80 Joules (~50 ft-lbs), and can break a bone at short ranges and through light clothing
    The rounds with silver plug at the front are flash-bang, providing some extra-bright flash (as big as 1.5 meter / 5 feet from the muzzle) and bang comparable to .300 Win Mag, which especially effective at the night and against packs of stray dogs.
     
  5. 25 Pdr

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    Foreign Gun Owners...Show your stuff...

    Here in the UK we can't have self loading centre fire rifles, (confiscated 1988) or handguns, (confiscated 1997). But to illustrate what we can have here is some of my legal, (registered) collection.

    You Good Guys in the US must avoid gun registration if you want to Keep and Bear Arms. Simple.

    BTW Anybody identify the rifle bottom left?

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  6. Calibre44

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    Heay Phil

    That looks like the Melville Range at Bisley – are you shooting the ‘advancing man targets?’

    I was at Bisley on Saturday on the Short Siberia Range – not bad weather for late September!
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    I see you like Lee Enfileds’ – here’s a nice example that was a joy to shoot.
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    cheers
     

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  7. Calibre44

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    Heay 25 Pdr – nice collection!. Not sure about the bottom left rifle but is the bottom right a BSA Airsporter?
     
  8. barman

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    Here are mine:
    Mle 1873
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    French pistol 1822t Bis
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    Another 1873 with an Uberti 1861 Nevy and a Fagnus revolver:
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    Mle 1892
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    Chassepot rifle, Swedish Rolling Block and a random 16 gauge shotgun.
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  9. 25 Pdr

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    CALIBRE44 Yes the bottom right is an Airsporter. Hint- the bottom left is a British made recoilless air rifle.
     
  10. Picard

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  11. halfbreed808

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    "I am not collector, but only shooter and reloader.
    I have only rifles:
    Anschutz .22LR
    Brno .22Hornet
    Tikka 66 12-70 /.222Rem
    T/C Cont carbin .223Rem
    Voere Mauser 22-250Rem
    Arisaka .308Win T*
    Rem 700 .30-06Spr T*
    Arisaka 9,3x57Mauser T*
    Handguns:
    Anschutz Exemplar .22LR
    T/C Cont/G2 .22Horn, 9mm Luger and .357Rem Max
    Renato Gamba Trident 900 .38Spl
    Dan wesson .357Rem Max" KI.W.




    ooookaaaayyyy!!!:D
     
  12. Seancass

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    Hawaii is foreign?

    edit: ooooooooooooh, i see now. stupid islands.;)jk.
     
  13. Shung

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    it was a quote from the Finish member ;)
     
  14. swiftak

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    Pardon my ignorance, but I was under the impression that all guns were banned in England.
     
  15. Calibre44

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    It’s a common misconception.

    Simplistically speaking all handguns are banned except Long Barrelled Revolvers (LBR in .357 and .44 mag and .22) and muzzle-loading pistols.

    Semi-auto centrefire guns are banned except .22 rimfire. You can still own traditional semi-autos like AK47, AR15 etc but they must have the semi auto-function disabled and reconfigured to a straight-pull arrangement whereby you have to manually pull back the bolt to eject and reload a shell from the mag.

    Everything else is okay from .17 to .50 cal so long as you can show good reason and have secure storage (gunsafe). Typically good reason would be target shooting, hunting and pest control. There are no restrictions on mag size. All guns except air guns have to be held on a Firearms Licence (FAC), which are issued by the local Police Force.

    You can own as many shotguns as you like including pump and semi but there is a mag restriction placed on these. Shotguns require a Shotgun Licence, which again, are issued by the local Police Force.

    You can’t own a gun for self-defence because the Police are there to protect you :rolleyes:

    That’s about it – simplistically speaking of course!
     
  16. Joey_the_Wolf

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    What happens if heaven forbid you were to shoot someone in self defence because they were breaking into your house for example? I've heard stories of a British farmer who did just that, yet enjoyed a nice long prison sentence because of it. Are laws/attitudes changing somewhat regarding that, or are you better off defending yourself with a tube sock full of D batteries (properly registered of course)?
     
  17. schmidtundveßon

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    I don't have a photo of my 1941. Luger, but the others are here:

    Smith & Wesson 627-5 Performance Center
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    Smith & Wesson 686-5 w/ Bushnell optic
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    Smith & Wesson 5904
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    Beretta 89 w/ Hakko red dot
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  18. Shung

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    I am very interested to know how are gun laws in croatia ?

    are the laws the same among ex yougoslavian countries ? (slovenia and serbia particullary)
     
  19. Pilot

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    Thanks to Shung and Calibre for your excellent responses to my question.
     
  20. Shung

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    that was an excellent question !

    You are lucky. You live in one of my favourite state (CO)
     
  21. Calibre44

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    Self defence is a difficult subject to quantity in a few paragraphs but there a few principles which will probably make you laugh at least. Basically we can defend ourselves if attacked but aren’t allowed to carry anything solely for defending ourselves or even have something in our homes solely for this purpose either – crap eh!?

    The subtle difference is this … are you ready? – you can use any object you like to defend yourself if attacked so long as it comes to hand naturally and you haven’ brought it for that purpose. So harsh language is probably the only defence you have unless you are a Karate expert.

    In your house for example, you may keep a bayonet, or any other sharp object, next to your bed because you have just cleaned it or because you feel it looks good as an ornament (the reason doesn't matter). If someone breaks in and attacks you can use it to defend yourself. If however, you have the bayonet or sharp object there just in case someone breaks in and then you use it you will no doubt find yourself in ‘hot water’. Every case is different of course in a court of law but the general feeling over here is that criminals have more rights than law abiding citizens.

    Another extreme situation could be for example, that I’m cleaning my 12g one night and just happened to have the ammo near – someone breaks in and attacks me with a knife then I can shoot him. Again the subtle deference here is that I can’t keep the shotgun out just in case someone breaks in – boils my pi$$.

    Lol that’s a good one! :D… however on a serious note, if, for what ever reason you had a hobby of collecting 'old socks full of D batteries' and grabbed it whilst being attacked you could legitimately use it to whack him with it. But you couldn’t use it if you but the batteries in the sock solely for that purpose – hope all this makes sense.

    I fully support your Castle Doctrine Law – which is ironic as I think it came from our old laws anyway. But in Tony Martin’s case (the farmer you referred to) his mistake was shooting the scumbag in the back as he was running away. There was a public outcry to release him which probably went someway in getting him released in the end

    It’s one of the fundamental differences between our countries – you can be proactive in defending yourselves and we can’t. I guess this is because the Government are sh.t scared that everyone will arm themselves with knives etc which will allow the bad guys to do the same using the excuse that they are carrying for self defence purposes. You and I know that this is crap because the bad guys carry nefarious objects whether it’s legal to do or not so it makes a mockery of it all and leaves us all disarmed and easy meat.

    Support and protect your liberties and freedoms – we didn’t which is why bad guys always have the upper-hand.
     
  22. philuk44

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    Hi Calibre

    Yep - that's Melville range. Not advancing targets though - that's me shooting the 1500. I'm an ex pistol shooter and many of us, when our pistols were confiscated, took to shooting the old pistol matches with pistol calibre carbines and .22" semi-autos.

    I'll be down at Bisley again in a fortnight for the Trafalgar historic arms meeting. I'll be taking the Enfield and I will be using the Marlin on advancing targets. I'll have to take the red dot off first mind you - not correct for period dont you know.......:D. I'll also be using the Winchester .22" pump - looking forward to it.

    That is a nice looking SMLE. I've never fired one actually but there should be plenty in use at the Trafalgar. Looks like a good day on short Siberia. I shot a shotgun match on there last year - pump action involving prone, kneeling and sitting - and the place was like a bog. Yuck!:eek:

    Ever get to any of the matches? - would be cool to meet up on the range someday or perhaps over a pint in the London & Middlesex..............

    Phil
     
  23. goerz

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    Thank you for clarifying that, I wasn't aware of this severe limitation to self-defence in the UK, this law seems totally unreasonable to me. Here in Italy we can keep firearms ready to be used for home defence and some can carry concealed handguns for the same purpose (that kind of permit is difficult to obtain, although: only 45,000 such permits exist, over a population of more than 56 million). About 4.8 million households own at least a firearm, often a hunting shotgun or rifle (hunting is popular in certain parts of the country). Open carry is allowed only for armed security guards. Italy introduced the Castle Doctrine in its legislation in 2006, extending it to one's workplace, although the application of the law still leaves much to desire: in practice the judges keep indicting those who kill a burglar for self defence. Even if the process ends with an acquittal, it takes a lot of time and money (and the loss of one's firearms) to get clean. There was a famous case in 2004, when two jewellers, father and son, pursued two robbers on the street, shooting one of them in the back and killing him. The jeweller who killed the robber (the son; the father later said he was proud of what his son did) was sentenced to 18 months in prison; the father shot several rounds too, but he missed (on purpose?), and was sentenced to 1 month. The sentences were eventually suspended because they had no previous criminal record and they never put foot in prison. There is general symphaty in the public opinion for those who shoot for self defence, although I wouldn't say that less restrictive gun ownership laws would be welcome by the majority. There are some political parties on the left that strongly oppose private gun ownership, but they are not at the helm now and the current government has probably the most pro-gun attitude you could hope for in Italy (which may look ridiculously restrictive by US standards, but at least they aren't going to confiscate our firearms).
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  24. 6_gunner

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    I learn something every day on THR!

    I thought that all hand guns were banned in England. What kind of legal hoops do you have to jump through to own a LBR? Are percussion revolvers subject to the same laws? Also, what barrel length must a revolver have to be classified as a "long-barrelled revolver"?

    I am very interested in the firearms laws of other countries, especially in Europe. This is a fascinating thread.
     
  25. Catherine

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    Great pictures and comments! Thank you.

    I have a question about POST #6 on this thread please.

    Philuk44, is that picture taken in a specific place in the United Kingdom and would you mind sharing it with us or in a private message? Thanks.

    Catherine
     
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