Found a pre-WW2 S&W 38/44 Heavy Duty today!

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I was doing some other gun shopping at Clark Guns & Personal Safety in Bossier City, LA this afternoon, and had boxed up my purchases and turned to leave the store. As I did so, a blued revolver stuck away in one of their used gun display cases caught my eye. It looked like an early-model 5" tapered barrel... but on an N-frame? In a smallish bore?

I asked them to dig it out. Turns out it's a pre-WW2 S&W 38/44 Heavy Duty!!! The serial number confirms its age. It has the 5" thin-profile barrel, 5-screw frame, heavy target grips (which may be a later addition), etc. The previous owner, who died recently, had added a Micrometer target rear sight and Patridge-style front sight in the late 1940's - and done it in a very interesting way. The base for the Patridge sight is fairly high, wide and long, and it's secured to the barrel by two cross-pins, which I'm fairly sure go through the original half-moon sight, which is probably still under the base. The rear sight installation is also very well done: whoever did it very carefully milled out the rear third or so of the sight groove on the frame, and made a cut which takes the rear sight as if it was factory-installed. The forward two-thirds of the fixed sight groove have been left standard.

The blueing is rather worn in parts, but for a gun that's probably almost 70 years old, it's in remarkably good condition. There's a thick line around the cylinder, but again, for its age, it's OK. The previous owner had engraved his name on one side of the action, but it's not obtrusively done, and if anything adds character to the gun. The action is pretty tight, and the double-action and single-action trigger pulls are just plain MAGIC! The rifling is still in good condition, and there's no sign of pitting or anything else in the bore or on the exterior. This gun has been much used, but lovingly cared for!

Apparently the owner bought this gun used on his return from WW2, and modified it for use as a Bullseye target pistol. He kept on with this sport for decades, and the gun has probably had thousands and thousands of wadcutters through it. After he died, his family sold the gun, but the new owner decided he wanted something "more modern" ( :what: :barf: ), and traded it in at Clark's - to my great joy and speedy purchase! :D

The best part of all was the price... I'm a regular customer at Clark's, so they give me a break on prices: but this gun wasn't moving for them (too "old-fashioned" for most of their modern customers!), so they basically gave it to me for what they had in it. $300 out the door! :D :D :D

I'd love to keep it, but I have a feeling Tamara will do unmentionable things to various portions of my anatomy if I don't let her have first dibs on it... and to be fair, her N-frame collection is rather larger than mine! So, Tams, stand by... after all, what are fellow moderators for? :D
 
Tamara likes unmodified guns I think. You ought to keep it PREACHERMAN. All you really need down there isn't it? Nothing like a loooong N frame D.A. trigger. Good find Father.;)
 
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The old King Gunsight Company in California made a front sight like the one you described. Are you sure the rear sight is one made by S&W? Post a picture of this "old junker," and maybe someone can identify who made the sights.

I sure am sad to see that the dealer took you to the cleaners (sob), but I'm sure that the rest of us will help you get over it .......
 
Sounds like a good catch to me, Padre. I saw one of the old 38/44s at a gunshow in the summer. I think it was the one with the target sights, but can't remember for sure. I know the front sight was one of those high jobs like McGivern favored and it had the pencil bbl. Big, beefy, N-frame! ;) Enjoy. And let Tamara shoot it if she plays nice. :)
 
Padre,

As a “man of the clothâ€, I am sure you could sincerely preach re the advantages of giving, rather than receiving. Toward that end, I would happily receive this 38/44. And, by the way, if envy is a sin, then I am in real trouble.

:rolleyes:

Regards.
 
The front sight has the word "Micro" inscribed in small script on the right side of the sight base. The rear sight is very short - not like the S&W sights with their long tang, but only an inch or so long - and also seems to have the word "Micro" in very small script on the top. The King's installation sounds very possible - certainly, the installation was done very, very well indeed, and is good enough work that it has to have been done by a reputable gunsmith/shop. I'm afraid I'm not set up for digital photography, but I'll see what I can do with a scanner.

The more I handle this gun, the more I like it! :D The action is very, very smooth, obviously from years of use. I suspect it's probably incredibly accurate with wadcutters, too, given its extensive use for Bullseye competition. This, of course, means that the very good lock-up is because it's probably never had full-power rounds fired through it, or at least very few of them.

RWK, I'd love to help, but I'm afraid Tamara would excommunicate my mortal remains (after finishing me off!) if I didn't give her first dibs on this one... :D I've found a few nice N-frames for her collection, and I suspect this one is going to be headed in her direction too. She has other guns that I like, so we have a thriving trading partnership going! :D
 
Yup. Those sights were made by the Micro Sight Co. that was located in Belmont, CA. They also made the first rear sights that Bill Ruger used on his .22 target automatic and Blackhawk revolvers before he started making his own.

I gave them a moment's consideration, but decided they didn't meet you're first description.

Sounds like you and/or Tamara have hit pay dirt.
 
Nice catch, Preacherman. Didn't know you were so close to me (I'm in East Texas). I drop in on that gunshop every now & then - maybe we'll cross paths sometime.

R-Tex12
 
Some guns have ghosts...

First: I'd like Mr. Middleton to know, wherever he is, that his pistol has found a good home. It now has many other S&W wheelguns to cavort and play with, and it will be exercised often and only fed the target wadcutter loads he so obviously preferred.

Second: This gun is an absolute fly trapped in amber. From the serial number that dates it to 1936, to the very professionally-installed Micro sights, to the humpback hammer that's been oxy-acetylene welded out into a target hammer with fresh checkering hand-cut into it, it is the epitome of a state-of-the-art late-'40s bullseye gun. The late Mr. Middleton should be proud.

Third: When I handed the gun to my (very critical) 'smith, his only comments were: "Hmmm... Hammer spur's been gas-welded. There's a small crack at the base of it, but it may've been there for 50 years. If it breaks, we'll just TIG it up. Lockup's pretty darn tight, although the crane could use a little bit of stretching... Single- and double-action pulls are phenominal, all things considered. Timing's perfect on all chambers. Nice gun. Bet these aren't the grips Mr. Middleton used. Look at the wear on the bottom of the trigger guard; there's prob'ly a well-worn set of Herrett's target stocks someplace..."

I think this may be my new favorite Smittie.

Pics to follow.
 
Yeah, sign me up to that list, too, Mike.

Son-of-a-B#*^%! I came back to see if Preacherman had offered that N-Frame .38-44 to those of us with less extensive S&W wheelgun collections. Not saying he was playing favorites, but you are correct, Mike. Sigh... :(
 
You can see it in the top right corner of Tamara's picture of her Smith & Wesson collection in this thread. Lemme see if I can copy it here...


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Hey, it works! :D
 
Oh (sniff) it's not fair. She has so many of them (sob). I would have given it good home too, and I've got lots and lots of wadcutters to feed it.
 
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