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Did anyone else catch Bo Dietl's comments (sorry about the spelling of his name) regarding sending our armed men and women into combat with bullets dipped in pigs' blood? The FOX News host was notably uncomfortable, but Bo just kept at it. Then, he argued that to do so would un-motivate the Jihadists because they wouldn't go to paradise and wouldn't get their 72 virgins. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall that we used similar tactics in the first Iraq war...threats to kill them and bury them in pig skins. It ended the war very quickly and caused massive defects of the soldiers. But, it seems that, from what I hear on the news, these are not Iraqi solders we're fighting, but fanatics that are coming from elsewhere. Myself, I'm rather torn about such actions being productive or counter-productive. If it were to be used as a tactic, I believe that in no way, shape or form shoud it be made public. Did anyone else see this broadcast?

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They interview him on The Daily Show regularly, he's an absolute wacko. The thing about pig blood is nonsense, see the Snopes writeup of it.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall that we used similar tactics in the first Iraq war...threats to kill them and bury them in pig skins. It ended the war very quickly and caused massive defects of the soldiers.
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We did no such thing.

We broke the Iraqi Army both times with massive firepower and rapid maneuver.
 
Bo Dietl is a media whore, but he does run his own security firm, and he was a NYPD detective, I believe.

Actually, a scenario where we invade Saudi Arabia and take control of the oil is not that far fetched. Bin Laden and his associates despise the royal family, the 'House of Saud' and would love to kill them. If the al queda/jihadists/islamofascists ever manage to stage a coup there, we would be forced to liberate the oilfields and refineries.
 
Mr. Dietl's 16 years in the New York Police City Department where he made more than 1,500 arrests and became one of the most highly decorated detectives in the history of that department.
He received 80 awards and commendations for bravery alone.

After retiring from the police department. Mr. Dietl went on to become a highly respected security expert and investigator in the private sector in both national and international arenas.

Currently, Mr. Dietl is Chairman and CEO of Beau Dietl Associates (BDA), an investigative firm that he founded. The firm boasts a client list that includes Columbia Pictures, Coca-Cola, Grey Advertising , PaineWebber, Lehman Brothers, Bankers Trust and the Royal Family of Saudi Arabia.

Mr. Dietl was appointed by then President of the United States, George Bush, as Co-Chairman of the National Crime Commission in 1989, and chosen as Security Consultant to the National Republican Party Convention in 1992 and 1996.

He is now serving his second term as chairman of the New York State Security Advisory Committee, a position New York Governor George Pataki appointed him to.
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Gotta laugh if he really said
his comment about how our society runs on oil and needs oil, Saudi Arabia has lots of oil, so the US should just go over and take it from them.
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And his company
Mr. Dietl is Chairman and CEO of Beau Dietl Associates (BDA), an investigative firm that he founded. The firm boasts a client list that includes ...the Royal Family of Saudi Arabia.
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Nothing like biting the hand that feeds you. Good for him. He's a no BS talker that is more thug than statesman, we need people like him.
Less touchy feely and more common sense.
 
How do you fight an enemy that does not fear death? We faced a foe like that once before in WW2 -> the Japanese.

The only way to convince them not to fight is to threaten what DOES matter to them. In WW2 it was the threatened destruction of their emperor, direct descendant of the Shinto god in their religion. If their emperor was destroyed all Japanese would forever live in shame for failing their lord. So they sacrificed their personal honor and surrendered, saving the honor of their lord. Otherwise they would have fought to the last, surrender is more shameful than defeat, but failing your lord is even worse.

The only way to convince the jihadis to stop is to threaten their idea of afterlife. No 72 virgins, no sitting at the dinner tent with Allah = no more martyrs.
 
He's a no BS talker that is more thug than statesman, we need people like him.
Less touchy feely and more common sense.
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Right, we need more policy analysts who base their ideas on urban legends about pig blood, think airport security need to search up people's butts to check for microchips with terrorist plans on them, and has said you should call the police if you see a group of middle easterners in a grocery store :rolleyes:
 
How do you fight an enemy that does not fear death? We faced a foe like that once before in WW2 -> the Japanese.

The only way to convince them not to fight is to threaten what DOES matter to them. In WW2 it was the threatened destruction of their emperor, direct descendant of the Shinto god in their religion.
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No. Believe me, if men are willing to fight to the death, you aren't going to scare them into surrendering -- no matter what you try.

We beat the Japanese by killing them -- in wholesale lots. We agreed not to depose the Emperor, not because they'd go on fighting, but because MacArthur understood that it would make the occupation easier.
 
boofus: According to the Snopes article I linked to, Muslims do not believe that being exposed to pig blood threatens their entry to heaven. It is an urban legend.
 
Hirohito WAS the reason for the surrender. The military zealots he was surrounded by would do anything to continue prosecuting the war. The Emperor looked at Hiroshima and Nagasaki and said no mas. Looking back in 20-20 hindsight he was correct. Saving probably ten million casualties.
 
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How do you fight an enemy that does not fear death? We faced a foe like that once before in WW2 -> the Japanese.

The only way to convince them not to fight is to threaten what DOES matter to them. In WW2 it was the threatened destruction of their emperor, direct descendant of the Shinto god in their religion.



No. Believe me, if men are willing to fight to the death, you aren't going to scare them into surrendering -- no matter what you try.

We beat the Japanese by killing them -- in wholesale lots. We agreed not to depose the Emperor, not because they'd go on fighting, but because MacArthur understood that it would make the occupation easier.


the Post WWII occupations of Germany and Japan were probably as bloody or bloodier than what has happened after "mission accomplished" was announced.
 
the Post WWII occupations of Germany and Japan were probably as bloody or bloodier than what has happened after "mission accomplished" was announced.
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The death toll in Germany and Japan in the early days of occupation was mostly due to disease and starvation. There was very little armed resistance from either the German or the Japanese people.
 
"the Post WWII occupations of Germany and Japan were probably as bloody or bloodier than what has happened after "mission accomplished" was announced."

I'd sure like to see a source for that!

From 1/'54 to 5/'58 I served with guys who'd been in both occupations. Never heard a word from any of them about "bloody". Never heard anything of the sort from my father, either, who'd helped liberate Dortmund and was there for a good while. Never heard anything of the sort from "Army brats" who'd grown up in occupied zones. I don't recall anything of such "bloody" doings in either the news or newsreels...

But what do I know?

:), Art
 
I'd sure like to see a source for that!
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Oliver North says so...

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/11/16/201258.shtml

But the left says no:

http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/133c/133cTexts/USOccGerm+IraqHNet03v.htm

and somewhere in the middle comes the History News Network...

http://hnn.us/articles/1655.html

Take your pick.
Doesn't matter either way. What is done is done and Islamofascism must be crushed like the evil bug it is.
Doing the right things for the right reasons is rarely a safe approach to life, but always a principled one.

Now back to the thread....

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