Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Fox showing Columbine shooters on tape (merged thread)

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Lennyjoe, Oct 22, 2003.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Lennyjoe

    Lennyjoe Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    6,052
    Location:
    Southwestern Ohio
    Fox showing Columbine shooters on tape

    Just watched Fox showing the 2 individuals shooting guns on tape which was made around 6 weeks before the tragedy.

    Anyone else catch it?

    Quite a few anti-gun comments made by reporters and what they call experts.
     
  2. MPFreeman

    MPFreeman Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2002
    Messages:
    275
    Location:
    Sacred lair
    Watching it now.

    Which is worse? The marksmanship, attitude, stupidity or skill of these boys?

    Just heard the guest say that you don't need Tech9's and high powered rifles to go target shooting. LOL. Well if you don't want to hit anything, take the DCTech9 I guess.
     
  3. spacemanspiff

    spacemanspiff Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    4,067
    Location:
    alaska
    whats worse? their taste in firearms.
     
  4. Lennyjoe

    Lennyjoe Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    6,052
    Location:
    Southwestern Ohio
    All of the above

    Unsafe for sure.

    They just said they were tracking them for almost a year on the internet. Comments they made, threats and all and what did our law enforcement people do about it? Nothing.
     
  5. Invisible Swordsman

    Invisible Swordsman Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2002
    Messages:
    190
    Location:
    Ohio
    I was just watching this at lunch. The sound wasn't on so I couldn't tell what kind of slant they were putting on it. They ran only this tape, repeatedly for at least the half hour I was there. Must not be anything else happening in the world today, so we can watch this to the exclusion of anything else :confused: .

    Agree with the others, lots of bad handling, four rules violations etc. I'm sure the antis are going to have a field day with this.
     
  6. ny32182

    ny32182 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2003
    Messages:
    5,701
    Location:
    Clemson, SC
    Funny how it comes out right before the election cycle/AWB renewal comes up.:rolleyes:
     
  7. veloce851

    veloce851 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2002
    Messages:
    350
    Location:
    RayMO
    I found the spin on this story just sickoning...
    They are refering to this tape as one of the most chilling pieces of footage ever shown on Fox. (appherently thousands of dead kurds isn't considered as chilling of footage)
    Keep in mind on the surface you are just watching a group of young people all smiling and laughing while shooting off various fun firearms. (remember they hadn't commited an act of violence up to that point of these tapes)
    And then they comment saying anyone witnessing this should now know what is going to happen next.
    This is just building a case against the notion that one should not enjoy the sporting aspects of firearms.. that even their lighthearted discharge is a prelude to an evil act of violence.

    Yes the kids are acting like goofy HS boys.. and there should have been an adult there to keep things in proper context and safety... but I saw a potencially normal and average group of people enjoying their firearms on private property.
    This footage was not at a public range.
    The fact that a couple of them were making comments about "right up its a##" or stating that you made a head shot is not CHILLING and DISTURBING.. its just immaturity showing through a boys masculinity.

    I'm sorry but I did not see anything there that would indicate the acts to come.

    That looked like typical HS mountain family boys playing to me.

    Think back.. we all horsed around like that.. no matter what we were doing.
    The only difference would have been dad or an uncle slapping you upside the head when you started crossing the line between having goofy fun and being unsafe.

    JMHO
     
  8. lawcox

    lawcox Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2003
    Messages:
    18
    Location:
    Virginia
    Get ready for another round of Michael Moore style anti gun propaganda

    I saw it on the net before I saw it on TV.
    This is going to be one bad ride.
    I couldn't ID all of the weapons, but I think the one that the girl was firing looked to be a Ruger Mini 14 with a folding synthetic stock and scope.
    Just wait, some liberal is now going to propose legislation to protect endangered bowling pins.
     
  9. JimJD

    JimJD Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2003
    Messages:
    729
    Location:
    USA
    Just watched it, some bad stuff going on in that video.
    Did you see the one ponting the LOADED sawed-off at his stomach while he was closing the action?
    Too bad it did'nt go off...
    From the footage I saw, It appeared they were using a Mini-14 or 30 with collapsable stock, possibly a Ruger P series pistol, and some type of sawed-off double barrel side-by-side shotgun, it looked like one had a sawed-off pump too.

    Did you get to hear the audio track? They said some pretty scary stuff...:(
    Just the fact they had an illegally modified weapon was wrong.
    Did'nt they break the law for owning these weapons at their age to begin with?
     
  10. Jack T.

    Jack T. Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    269
    Location:
    Great State of Oklahoma
    Ding ding ding ding ding! Johhny, tell him what he's won!

    Pure coincidence, I am sure :barf: :fire:
     
  11. Don Gwinn

    Don Gwinn Moderator Emeritus

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Messages:
    6,385
    Location:
    Virden, IL
    Now, come on, folks. Let's be reasonable about this. (I know the word "reasonable" is oft misused, but give me a chance here.)

    There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with being "sickened" by such a video. I haven't seen it, so obviously I didn't hear the commentary, and so I'll limit myself to commenting only on the issues that have been raised here.

    It doesn't matter if you think that the tape looks like kids goofing around. It doesn't matter if none of the practices on the tape, outside the context of the Columbine shootings, are objectionable in and of themselves. When you're watching the perpetrators of one of the worst massacres of children in recent history practicing their marksmanship while making comments about killing people, that SHOULD be chilling. It's not the practices, necessarily, it's the PEOPLE in that video.

    If we had video of one of the Sept. 11th hijackers practicing knife techniques at a Florida martial-arts school, would you find it "sickening" to watch? If so, does that mean you have an irrational fear of knives, or that what those men did sickens you?
     
  12. ballistic gelatin

    ballistic gelatin Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2003
    Messages:
    335
    Location:
    Florida
    Fox News Columbing Video Online

    Video of Columbing shooters having some "target practice".
    Fox News
     
  13. Leatherneck

    Leatherneck Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2002
    Messages:
    2,545
    Location:
    No. Virginia and Northern Neck
    Well said, Don.

    TC
    TFL Survivor
     
  14. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    10,755
    Location:
    Colorado Springs
    I can't seem to ever get those Fox News videos to work ... anyone have a direct link to the video file?
     
  15. gun-fucious

    gun-fucious Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    1,977
    Location:
    centre of the PA
  16. feedthehogs

    feedthehogs Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2003
    Messages:
    1,801
    If you want a copy of the tape, the Jefferson County Sheriff's office is selling them at $20.00 a copy.

    The reason?

    "So it won't ever happen again"

    If that were the case then there should have been no shootings after all the video from 9/11.

    Right?

    All criminals should have laid down their guns and made peace with the world.
    (picture in mind; daisy covered sun drenched fields with birds singing, butterflys flying and bees buzzing)


    If this is the intelligence level we have in law enforcement, what chance do we ever have of preventing something like this again?

    NONE!!!!!

    Its a social issue, not a gun issue you freakin morons at the JC Sheriffs office.

    VPC strikes again. Underhanded as usual.
     
  17. Travis McGee

    Travis McGee Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2003
    Messages:
    1,790
    Location:
    NE Florida
    Prediction: this tape will be sliced and put into anti-gun VPC TV propaganda commercials. They will be on TV wall to wall as the AWB comes up to sunset time next year. Also, Bowling and The Runaway Jury will be on TV every day of that final month. We are going to be barraged with anti "assault weapon" propaganda on TV.

    Matt
     
  18. Langenator

    Langenator Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2003
    Messages:
    2,689
    Location:
    Ft Belvoir, VA
    Now, my memory of the whole Columbine incident isn't as good as it should be (I have an excuse-I was in Tirana as part of TF Hawk at the time). IIRC, Dylan and Klebold used at least one shotgun, I think two (I'm guessing that would be the pump and the double in the vid) and at least one pistol.

    Did they use anything that is actually covered by the AWB (ie, that Mini-14 with 40 rnd mag and folding stock)?
     
  19. moa

    moa Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2002
    Messages:
    1,154
    It seems the so called experts seem to forget that the Columbine massacre plan depended primarily on explosive devices, perhaps as many as 70. Apparently the intent of the firearms was to protect the mission, and not necessarily to gun people down.

    And example was propane gas tanks were to be exploded in the cafeteria at lunch time. Harris and Klebold even booby trapped their car.

    One of the things that led the authorities to think that Harris and Klebold had accomplices is how were they able to get so many explosive devices into the school undected.

    Harris and Klebold wanted to kill a lot more than the dozen or so they killed.
     
  20. ballistic gelatin

    ballistic gelatin Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2003
    Messages:
    335
    Location:
    Florida
    There is a second video on Fox that interviews the "best friend" of one of the killers.

    He says he just can't see why anyone would target practice with a tech-9 or a high power rifle. That's just ridiculous.

    What a dork.

    Also his "best friend" status went bye bye when he removed himself from the relationship because his "best friend" started hanging out with another kid earlier in the year.

    I repeat, what a dork.
     
  21. AUTIGER04

    AUTIGER04 member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2003
    Messages:
    246
    Location:
    The South. Tiger Country!
    Bad shooting skills indeed. Ruger Mini 14 jammed alot? I thought they used HI POINT carbines and Tec 9s in the school shootings? News Media:scrutiny:
     
  22. Black Snowman

    Black Snowman Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2003
    Messages:
    3,507
    Location:
    Kansas City, KS
    The reporting on the events by the TV media was horrible. I never got any straight facts about it except for about 30 seconds of video footage. 2 kids were shooting other kids at a school in Colorado. The rest was all smoke, mirrors, and hearsay.

    Can't comment on the written media because I gave up on them as long ago as well. I just happen to see the "news" footage while channel hopping.
     
  23. anapex

    anapex Member

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2003
    Messages:
    1,043
    Location:
    Free at last in PA!
    My ears must be bad (Shooting too much ;) ) because aside from the occassional swear word thrown out I really didn't hear anything shocking. But like others said terrible terrible handling and following of the rules.

    I'll try watching it again and see what I can pick up on a second time through.
     
  24. KT-P32

    KT-P32 member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2003
    Messages:
    33
    Location:
    CSA
    Looked like kids out having fun to me.:rolleyes: Who here has opened up on a tree?:rolleyes:
     
  25. ceetee

    ceetee Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2003
    Messages:
    1,998
    What it shows me is a bunch of kids with not enough parental input. When I was growing up, I used to hunt with Dad, who hunted with Grandpa, and so on. I know how to handle guns safely, how to care for them properly, and above all else, the potential they represented when handled unsafely (like when my oldest brother shot the piano)...

    If these kids' parents had spent more time with the kids, shooting, playing, talking... the whole atrocity would've never happened!
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page