Free speach, or...

She is...

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    Votes: 3 10.3%
  • a Zealous nutcase

    Votes: 11 37.9%
  • Misinformed

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  • Harmless, demonstrating free speech

    Votes: 9 31.0%

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Elected official refuses Pledge Selectman: 'Every time I see the flag, I can picture George Bush wearing it as a toga'

A town official in a Boston suburb opposed to the war in Iraq has created a local uproar by refusing to give the Pledge of Allegiance at a recent meeting of elected officials.

Selectman Regina Burke of Hull, Mass., sat through the Pledge last week, angering some residents and fellow boardmembers.

"It's a disgrace,'' Selectman Leonard Hersch told the Patriot-Ledger of Quincy. "You don't do that when you're sitting as a selectman.''

According to the paper, Burke said during the meeting that she supports American troops in action, just not the decision by President Bush to use military force.

"Every time I see the flag, I can picture George Bush wearing it as a toga, and I don't know what it stands for anymore other than for his particular financial group and followers,'' Burke said when she announced that she would not stand for the Pledge.

Burke reportedly referred to the Bush presidency as "illegitimate," claiming Bush is using the executive office to line the pockets of "big business."

While several town officials affirmed Burke's right to free speech, they objected to her using the meeting of selectmen as a forum for her personal opinions.

"It was an improper use of her position,'' Richard Cleverly, a former member of the town's war-memorial commission told the Patriot-Ledger. "She has a right to say it, but not when she's representing the people of the town.''

"I don't approve of her decision," said Selectman Jerry McLaughlin, an Army veteran. "But I will defend hers and anyone else's right in a free society to make their own decisions and feel free from persecution.''

However McLaughlin disagreed with Burke about the meaning of the U.S. flag.

"It doesn't represent one policy or one president," he told the paper. "It represents 280 million Americans.''

Selectman Thomas Burns expressed concern that people are taking Burke's comments out of context, saying her actions were in protest of the president's policies, not to show disrespect for the sacrifices of the nation's Armed Forces.

"She's a good person, but her timing was not the best, because this is going to be misinterpreted,'' Burns told the paper. "It's an unfortunate event to come at this stage.''

As WorldNetDaily reported, the town of Fieldsboro, N.J., was the center of attention over the weekend as many waved American flags, shouted patriotic slogans and sang songs to protest the Democrat council's decision to ban yellow ribbons on municipal property there.

The decision to ban the ribbons was supported by Mayor Edward ''Buddy'' Tyler, but caused an uproar with residents who want to honor U.S. troops fighting in Iraq. Many residents have called for the mayor's resignation.
 
"I don't approve of her decision," said Selectman Jerry McLaughlin, an Army veteran. "But I will defend hers and anyone else's right in a free society to make their own decisions and feel free from persecution.''
 
The grand old problem of Free Speech: when you are a representative of the people, and acting in the capacity, do you have free speech?

In other words, having been elected by the People, drawing a salary to represent those people, and sitting in a meeting for the express purpose of representing the people, do you have the right to speak your mind as an individual?

Personally, it is my opinion that personal free speech by public servants doesn't exist until they are off-duty.

If she wants to protest President Bush and the current scuffle in the Mid-East, she can do it outside before the meeting, or outside after the meeting -- but, inside the government building, during the meeting, she is a Servant of the People,and has duty and responsibility to put her personal issues aside and concentrate on the people she's supposedly representing.

Just my opinion.

LawDog
 
Maybe her individual opinion also happens to represent the opinions of some of the people? Would it be better if she said "we" or "some of us" instead of "I?"

If the people don't believe she's representing them, they can vote her out of office.
 
Oh, that feels good!

Looks to me as though all too many, on all sides, are enjoying a fine round of recreational hysteria. Is anyone else reminded of Joseph Heller's Great Loyalty Oath Crusade in Catch-22?
 
I'm pretty much in accord with LawDog.

I once had a job where I occasionally stood in for a high state official here in Texas. I then represented his state agency as well as his official job. I thus had no personal opinions when I was standing-in. After work, having a drink with the same people I had dealt with earlier, I could offer personal opinions. To me, the public sector has additional duties and responsibilities than Mr. Average Citizen. I do not deny Burke her rights, but I certainly question her extremely poor judgement.

Regardless, this Burke creature does not at all understand the meaning, the symbolism of our flag. It does not stand for the administration or the government. It stands for the fundamental ideas and concepts of the United States of America, even though these have never been fully realized and likely never will. (Dunno why this concept is so hard to understand.)

While it is true that the ballot box can solve this problem, there is that period of time before such can occur. In the meantime the local populace must endure that for which they did not vote.

Art
 
Personally, it is my opinion that personal free speech by public servants doesn't exist until they are off-duty.
Sometimes not even then. I've held a very minor appointed position and written letters to the editor expressing my personal opinion. The editor of this particular paper, no friend of me or what I was working for, chose (quite accidentally, I am certain :rolleyes: ) to turn my personal opinion into an official pronouncement. :cuss:

Since then I've always tried to make the difference so clear that even a PRNJ newspaper editor could not deliberately twist it into a mistruth.

- pdmoderator
 
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