Friend assaulted by an individual person on Bellaire @ Gessner (Houston, TX)

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Last week, a friend was assault by an individual with a box cutter on one of the strip centers on the intersection of Bellaire and Gessner around 10:00 am. The individual approached my friend and asked him for $5.00. My friend told the individual that he had no money to give to the individual. The individual then to pull out a box cutter the slash my friend’s arm. Individual ran off.

Friend for some reason did not have his Kahr PM9 on him that day.
 
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That is a very good example of why to carry 24/7 in all locations legal.

I hope your friend fully recovers.

Doc2005
 
south of Westhiemer and especially south of Richmond is not the safest place to be in Houston. It's where all the trash resides. :barf: We live just north of Westheimer near Dairy Ashford. We had a car jacking about a month ago in my neighborhood, sometimes it spills over across Westheimer.....of course you have a lot of cheap apartments and HUD housing along Briar Forrest too. But south of Richmond along Bellaire and Bissonett from Alief to the 610 loop is all trash.

Hope and pray your friend's arm heals okay. Glad it didn't turn out worse :)
 
I've moved to the 'burbs for this very reason. H-town is getting too full of "them" and has too few few of "us".

If I go to "the city" anymore it's to GRB for gun shows or to "china town" ... it's a shame really, I loved The Mucky Duck.

Hope all ends well with your friend, speedy recovery and all.

P.S. he should carry; when lawful.
 
1. Prayers to your friend - well wishes for a speedy recovery.
2. This is a good reminder for me as to why I practice 'empty hands' more than my firearms right now... It seems I always have my hands with me, and only sometimes my firearms.
3. Even with my skills, I remain only as good as my awareness.
4. Stories such as this one, and others I hear from some of my Police friends remind me that there is evil out there, and gives me scenarios to think about.

Thanks for sharing the story, again, well wishes for your friend.

Respectfully,

John
 
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It might interest you to know that some of us THRer's live south of Richmond and north of Bellaire , west of Dairy Ashford but east of Highway 6 and have for almost 30 yrs. With a house that's paid for and no job since Oct 2004, and a herat attack in May2006 I can't afford to move. But you are correct Alief is not what it used to be. What happened to KL's friend can happen anywhere, in any town at any time not just in a bad section of town. It pays to be always vigilant.

Bob
 
KL,
hope your friend recovers 100%. I know that area and I won't call it a really bad place or particularly unsafe place at 10AM. It just goes to show you that the unexpected can happen anywhere.

BTW, what wouldyour friend have done if he had his PM9 ? Would he shoot the fleeing bum ? I don't think that's legal under TX chl; maybe if he shot the bum before the bum is running away.

Keep aware of your surroundings. I don't let bums get close. Not because I'm afread of knife attacks (but now I'll keep this in mind too), but I just think they are dirty and I'd prefer keeping my distance.
 
A gun wouldn't have done him any good at all. He wouldn't have pulled it nor had time to.

Better awareness and training might have helped, though.

Tell him to look for South Narc's PUC course for better solutions. He covers this in detail and provides several options for keeping a reactive space and options for when the BG gets within the reactive space.

What occured is the classic mugging "interview" to fix your buddy on answering a question instead of treating the encounter as a threat. What is surprising is that the troll just slashed your pal instead of putting the box cutter to his throat and demanding his wallet. He didn't get anything for his trouble and yet he attacked with a deadly weapon. Sounds like a dangerous bum/druggie.
 
It might interest you to know that some of us THRer's live south of Richmond and north of Bellaire , west of Dairy Ashford but east of Highway 6 and have for almost 30 yrs. With a house that's paid for and no job since Oct 2004, and a herat attack in May2006 I can't afford to move. But you are correct Alief is not what it used to be. What happened to KL's friend can happen anywhere, in any town at any time not just in a bad section of town. It pays to be always vigilant.
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Upon rereading my post, I sincerely apologise Bob if my comments offended you. :eek: I didn't mean to say that everyone in the above said area was "trash" or no good, but just as you indicated that that is where most of the trash has taken up residence and has to a large extent taken over. :(

Of course there are a lot of good people stuck there. My cousins used to live deep in Alief up until 1988 and it was already starting to go down the tubes about that time. I met an old couple up in Livingston, Texas about 3 years ago who used to live in alief, had lived there for years in a nice subdivision. Until one day they woke up to "bahahahaha" (sheep or goats?...in a neighborhood?). Hindus or something that believed in sheep or goats (eating them or worshiping them) had moved in next door and were raising sheep in their backyard :eek: :p . That is more the silly side of things, but the gangs and violence is the darker side.

Unfortunatly, the property values in our neighborhood have been hanging in the balance for several years now...it may be that within 5-10 years the same thing could start spreading north of westhiemer :(
 
Pocket carry is tactically advantageous. This incident is consistent with that idea. Most people would not draw on a panhandler. But a person with a gun in his pocket can do the next best thing without brandishing. Gun in hand and hand in pocket is quicker than anything else. Some will suggest a DAO revolver can be fired from inside a coat pocket. In Houston in August, of course, this is unworkable. But an MK9 in the strong side front pocket would have been a good thing.
 
A gun wouldn't have done him any good at all. He wouldn't have pulled it nor had time to.
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I disagree, and concur with "Lightning Joe" on the virtues of pocket carry.

On one or two occasions I picked up a bad "vibe" from someone, and there's a whole lot to be said for having a gun in hand in your pocket . . . if nothing happens, all people see is a guy casually standing there with his hand in his pocket.

If use of the gun becomes necessary, you're only about 1/2 second away from draw to "BANG" . . . and if some lowlife with a box cutter demands money, you can always distract him verbally by saying "Ok man, don't hurt me, I'll give you my money . . . " while you're reaching in your pocket for your pistol. Very effective.
 
Friendly folks just say "Hi", or otherwise great you.

People who want to sell you something say "Hi", approach you, and abuse your hospitality.

Predators will make a trivial demand, and gauge your reaction.

If someone you don't know approaches you, you need to go to condition red immediately. The best response to a demand is "No, leave me alone", and posturing yourself as aware and ready for an assault.

Even if the demand is something a innocent sounding as "What time is it?", it puts you in the position of appeaser, by giving the aggressor something, and distracts you by getting you to look at your watch.
 
Getting taken by surprize always puts the defender at an immediate disadvantage. I constantly have people ask me for cigarettes, money, "a light", directions etc. Some people unknowly and out of social habit try to get way too close and squaring face to face.

When I spot someone making a beeline for me, or someone already quite close throws up a flag, I always pivot so as to keep them at about 9 o'clock when they close in. This nearly always brings them to a dead stop, as they realise I am unsure of their intentions, and ready to do something they are not sure of. Although some will further involuntarily or otherwise move to square off, once they have moved around a half or three quarter circle or so, and I have stepped back if necessary to maintain a step or two difference, it does dawn on them.

Never let someone making a beeline for you walk up and get within strike/grab reach not requiring at least two full steps forward if possible. When someone does walk up on you or otherwise get your attention - do not neglect what and who else is going on around you. Sometimes the conversation runs;

"that's close enough thanks ......"

"huh? .. I ..."

"I can hear you just fine - what do you want?"

"Oh, I'm sorry (eying me nervously) ... I am looking for _____________"

Don't allow yourself to be drawn into a complete stranger getting your trust through a clever and protracted conversation. They may be waiting for you to drop your guard for just a few seconds.

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Last night I was working the front door of one of the largest clubs in our downtown area. Nice lit street, quite a bit of foot traffic, not to late (10:30pm). I'm yacking with another doorman because it's quiet outside as most people are inside watching the nights concert, and I watch this "homeless" man walking up the street past me. Nothing unusual, I've seen and talked to this person a few times and never had any problems with him being overly agressive or rude to the customers. He's just some "bum" for lack of a more P.C. term.
He gets about 50 feet away from us and he meets up with another gentleman heading the opposite direction. The second guy is about mid 30s, dressed nicely, clean, obviously not some street person. As they go to pass one another Mr. Citizen suddenly reaches over and grabs the first guy's lapels, swings him around and throws him to the ground. Where he "punches" the guy 3 or 4 times. I yell at the guy to leave him alone and start around the barricade line to chase the guy off and he looks up at me, makes direct eye contact from about 40 feet away, then leans down and stabs the guy in the neck. In the time it took us to run the 40 feet the stabber was around the corner and gone.
There was no altercation, no fight, as far as I could see there wasn't even a single word exchanged. No vibe of violence, nothing to warn what was about to happen. I've worked in some nasty bars, dealt with everything from bikers to drunk lawyers (rather scrap the bikers, they whine less when they lose), from drug dealers to cops. In 12 years I haven't had one of my guys end up in the emergancy ward nor lost a fight.In all honesty, I don't think I would have fared much better than the guy who got stabbed. Don't kid yourself, sometimes there is no warning.
 
Richmond and Fondron just about where Collectors Firearms is located (one of the largest gun stores in Houston) A Few year back I opened a business in the area.. Some condos nearby and the people were proud of their homes but were afraid of the growing crime they and nearby Churches have organized and petitiioned the City for Help. Lots of Clubs in the Area that bring much trouble and it seems the cops are bearing down on them. They caused me big trouble. I always felt uneasy but knew the lesson of eye contact and not looking like a victum. Thirty years ago I worked in the Oil and Gas industry and this specific area was very different then, sad to have witnessed the change. At the very least I would carry a effective knife.
 
People always wonder why I'm so crazy, and twitchy when I see something sudden. Well it's because of situations like this.
 
I have an apartment in Friendswood. A few months ago I spotted a couple of "gangsta" looking young men, with flashlights, looking in cars, at 2:00 A.M.
I called 911 and walked out on my patio. I told them that they were in Texas and that a resident protecting property at night was not something they wanted to experience first hand.
Cops showed up and loaded 'em up. The officer said both were carrying Louisiana I.D.'s.
These guys show up everywhere, even around my shop at night, and it is in an area the Houston police are not allowed in by themselves.
 
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