Front slide serration aggitation

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Does anyone know if Springfield makes a loaded or Kimber makes a gold match without front slide serrations?

Additionally, why front slide serrations? I don't like them aesthetically, and don't use them to rack the slide. Am I missing something that I should be using them for?
 
I am not aware of a Springfield Loaded without front slide serrations. This is the reason I buy only the GI or Mil-spec versons and then modify as I see fit. I know it costs more, but I agree, I don't like the look, and have never used that method to check to see if I had a round loaded.
 
Additionally, why front slide serrations?

It's to allow for the (unsafe) IDPA/IPSC practice of showing clear by pushing back on the front serrations without covering the chamber with your hand.

They are ugly, tear up holsters, and encourage unsafe handling. They should be banned.
 
I have a P01 that has front serrations - and this is an DA/SA pistol! It takes 13-15 lbs of force to pull the slide back against the hammer, so the only way you could pull back on the front serrations easily is with a pair of Visegrips.

However. I do like the fact that it makes the pistol easier to rack Israeli style.
 
I do like the fact that it makes the pistol easier to rack Israeli style.
I do a lot of practicing that way on a 1911, but my hands are always on the rear serrations. However, it would be of great assistance if one hand was incapacitated, by many who castigate this method, in an emergency rack...
 
The only thing I wish I could change on my Sig P220 SAO Match is the front slide serrations. I can't see myself buying another pistol with front slide serrations. As stated previously they are of very little if any tactical use. They tear up holsters as well. I would imagine manufacturers could make slides without the front serrations as it would be removing a step in the manufacturing procedure as opposed to adding one. Yet I know next to nothing about handgun manufacturing processes. My personal opinion is that a certain segment of gun buyers think they are "tacticool" much like rails, laser grips, etc. Personally I will be building my next 1911 as it seems the easiest way to get what I am looking for.
 
They are an abomination as are light rails. Please get this tactical crap out of serious CCW handguns.
 
Everyone either has a front serration free 1911, or will make you one. Wanna know what's REALLY cool about front serrations? Get one WITH them, and get a HP cut (like what a Browning Hi-Power looks like). by milling them off.

Check it out!...
 
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I almost added a Hi-Power cut to my 1911 during the build... I had it locked in the vise on the mill and everything. I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Anyone have a good pic of a 1911 with the serrations cut away?...
 
These are supposed to be for retracting the slide for a chamber check (the kind you do to see that you did in fact load the chamber). You reach up under the front of the gun, grasp the serrations with a pinching motion (keep stray fingers away from the muzzle) and draw the slide back slightly, to see a little bit of the brass in the chamber. You do not need or want to draw it back so far that the cartridge gets ejected. Depending on the pistol design, I can grasp a slide in this manner just fine with no serrations at all, but prefer not to do it this way. Instead I hook my thumb under the bottom of the grip "tang" or safety, put my first three fingers on top of the slide between the rear sight and ejection port, and close my whole hand to retract the slide a small amount. This is much easier, especially on a double-action gun that has the additional resistance of cocking the hammer.

I have a CZ PCR (a similar gun to the P-01 except with a tapered-bottom frame that has no accessory rail) with front cocking serrations, and they are completely useless. On this gun - as with all CZ75s - there is little exposed slide to grasp anyway, and I need much more of the "meat" of my hands on it than the pinching motion of my thumb and first two fingers. But at least the front serrations are unobtrusive and don't hurt anything.
 
I just ordered a SA 1911 Trophy Match, not paying mutch attention to the front slide serrations. This thread just reinforced a little "buyer's remorse" I'm beginning to have. I'm sure I'll end up really liking the weapon, as I did a lot of research prior to purchase. But thanks a bunch for increasing my paranoia just a tad. :uhoh:
 
The RIA "Tactical" has all the loaded features minus the front slide serrations, firing pin blocking complications, and hammer/trigger locks. Best value on the market IMHO. Didn't take long to have spent more on the ammo shot thru it than I paid for the gun!

--wally.
 
The best solution to the current fad and gadget-loaded pistols is to buy an older one. I need a "tactical" pistol like a hole in the head. :barf:
 
Other than the better sights (Novaks) and ambi safety, the RIA Tactical is a poorly chosen name for what is basically a throwback gun minus gadgets excepting the full length guide rod :(

--wally.
 
Thanks for all the replies - you've reinforced what I already thought. Sorry for the buyer's remorse Wesson - though I think you'll still enjoy your purchase. Short of buying an Ed Brown because it's too much money for me right now, I'll probably get a mil spec and work on it as money comes in. I guess that's part of the fun of having a 1911 anyway - getting to build it out. That's part of the reason AR's are so fun.
 
Yes, I agree with you on the front slide serrations, I'm just not a big fan of them nor light rails.
I do find it interesting that in some of the first versions of the Browning designed Colt large service pistols( Models 1902 Sporting & 1902 Military, both in .38ACP, I think) he placed the slide serrations on the front of the slide, if I remember correctly the serrations on the front of the Military model were actually checkering, rather than vertical serrations.
I will absolutely draw the line on this "tacticool" fad when some VILLAIN puts a light rail & front serrations on the Browning Hi-Power or the Sig P-210. An abomination such as that, would make me walk out into the street toward on-coming traffic!
 
I hate the serrations forward of the chamber

Last time I bought a 1911 my first requirement was that it would look like a 1911 - none of those serrations up by the muzzle - this produced a very short list and I ended up going home with a Kimber Tac II.
 
I'm going to be the odd man out, I like them, not for any functional reason, I just like the look.
 
I am indiffernt towards front slide serrations. I truly do not care. Some of my 1911's have 'em, some don't.

meh.
 
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