FTEs with my Taurus PT99

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I'm fairly certain that I'm responsible for this however I'm searching for possible causes.

After having taken my pistol to the range about once a month I went through a dry spell of probably close to 3 months. I cleaned and lightly oiled it and left it in my basement with me, for a few days until I noticed that my HD gun was beginning to get some extremely light rusting on the black (or is that "blued"?) parts that had markings on it (like on the barrel or the side of the frame). So I sadly stuck my HD gun in the closet 3 floors above my head where it's now just a paperweight.

That being said I decided to go to the range the other day and out of 100 rounds had maybe 6 FTEs. Obviously for something that my life could depend on that's a HORRIBLE statistic. But I had also noticed that there was little to no visible oil on the gun and looked mostly like I hadn't oiled it. So I grabbed a bottle of lube from the range and dropped a few drops on the parts that touched and a few drops on the feed ramp (as I imagine the part that guides the bullets from the magazine into the chamber would be called) and yet still had a few FTEs.

About half of those were what I imagine a "smoke stack" would be, where the slide slams back down but closes halfway with a new round going in and a spent case sticking up 90^ to the slide and then the other half looked like the extractor pin (again, what I imagine you call the thingy that grabs the case when the slide goes back) slipped off and left a spent case behind while the gun tried to feed a new round effectively wedging it into place.

All were cleared awkwardly but safely. To date I've only had trouble with the gun on the first 100 rounds I put downrange but that was my fault for failing to RTFM when I first bought the gun. Apparently guns should be cleaned and oiled before first using...who knew :banghead: Between then and now I've shot probably 1200 rounds.

So what do you think the problem was? Poor form (I seem to recall them happening in the beginning of my session vs. later)? Poor gun maintance? Over oiling? Oil + fouling? Poor cleaning? I'm ruling out any gun malfunction as this was a first time thing.
 
What kind of lubricant did you put on the gun before you put it in storage?

I suspect a basement in Maryland is pretty humid. Some things folks use to clean guns won't work in humid environments. WD40 is used by many folks, but it is not a lubricant. 3-in-1 is also not a lubricant. It is a mineral oil and evaporates.

Since you found rust it may be assumed the gun was not properly lubricated. You may also assume there was corrosion in places you did not see. Corrosion between the moving parts, slide-to-frame, slide-to-barrel, etc., create excess friction which can cause your problem. Corrosion inside the barrel, in the chamber, could also cause a problem. There are many possibilities.

Since you are unfamiliar with the possible causes I assume you don't know how to cure them, so I suggest you take it to a smith and have him give it a good going over (including polishing the chamber and feed ramp).

One thing you said causes me great concern. You said you put oil on the feed ramp. If rounds being stripped from the magazine pick up oil and get it into the chamber it could greatly increase chamber pressure. That could cause the gun to blow up on you.

NEVER oil the feed ramp or an portion of the inside of the barrel before firing. For long-term storage the feed ramp and inside of the barrel should be lubricated, because they have the least amount of protection against corrosion of any part of the gun. But, a clean, dry patch should be used on such a barrel before firing.

I routinely run a lubricated patch through barrels after cleaning, but I follow it with a dry patch to pick up traces of excess oil. It cannot get all of it because steel is porous and there will be minute deposits in surface cavities, but there won't be enough residue to cause pressure problems.
 
Wow Loop thanks! Had no idea I could have KBed my gun. I'm going to reclean it tonight and plan on going shooting again Wednesday...I'll let you know how it goes.

And I used Remington gun oil before putting it away for 3 months. But didn't oil it expecting to put it away for three months.
 
FTE or more precisely, intermitant smoke stacks, are a result of too slow a slide speed to correctly eject the round. Several things or combination of things can cause slow slide speed for example:
1. Poor lubrication
2. accumulation of fouling
3. shooter touching slide when it cycles
4. too heavy a recoil spring
5. too light a load.
6. Limp wristing i.e. not providing enough resistance to recoil.

Other things:
7. Addition of recoil buffers that don't allow enough slide travel
8. Broken or chipped extractor.
9. Broken or chipped ejector.
10. Fouling under the extractor.

Just some of the ones I can think of.
 
Loop & Steve C pretty much nailed the possible causes. Where and when are you going shooting on Wednesday? If you'd like, I could try to meet you somewhere (I usually shoot pistols at On Target in Severn) and we could put a few rounds downrange. I'm not a master shooter by any means, but sometimes it's good to have a seperate perspective when you're trying to diagnose an issue with your gun or your shooting form.

Let me know, and we'll see what we can set up!
 
Yup on-target in severn! Those guys down there are really professional, knowledgable and friendly. I remember when my sister got her Glock I managed to break the stupid "bullet lock" inside the gun. She took it in the guy laughed at me said the first thing she should have done when she got the gun home was throw that thing away. He also fixed it in like 10 minutes.

I'm actually taking a guy from work shooting, I don't think he's ever been before so that'll take up a majority of my concentration but yeah man some day soon we'll hook up and add to my collection of proof that paper doesn't stop bullets.
 
Good deal. What time do you think ya'll are gonna be there? Even if we don't get to shoot together, it'd be cool to meet up and put a face with the name, as it were.

Also, I'd be happy to let your friend shoot some of my guns, if he likes. I'll probably bring my fiancee's .38 snubbie, and maybe my new Hi-Point carbine. Possibly one or both of the .22's as well.
 
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