CoolBreeze
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Note: This is very long!!
If you take time to read it all, it will be an interesting read!
This is an example of "they are doing it for the children" method at work.
They are also defining it as a public health issue instead
of a 2nd Amendment/individual rights issue.
"Georgians For Gun Safety"
Appears to be a state level version of
the group that calls themselves "Americans for Gun Safety".
This Atlanta front group is funded from outside sources to
attempt to manipulate Georgia Public policy on
Guns and Gun ownership.
{Note: The money trail backword is from:
1)Atlanta/Fulton Commission on Children and Youth,
Ms. Alice Johnson.
2) then something called Join Together
3) which is part of Boston University, School of Public health
4) funding ($$$$$) is from
The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation to the
Boston University School of Public Health.
5) In 1996, Join Together broadened its scope to include
gun violence prevention, supported by a grant from the
Joyce Foundation.
6) Additional funding for the GUN violence project was
awarded in 2001 by the
David Bohnett Foundation.
While the primary focus is/was substance abuse,
the group, with new sources of sponsor (with agendas) $$$
now believes that {money talks!}
communities need to employ comprehensive strategies
that respond to its related harms. {Note: They mean firearms. }
Georgians for Gun Safety:
This group is currently running anti-gun commercials daily,
on local TV stations, throughout the state of Geogia.
{Apparently for free as public service type annoucements or with
free $$$ from various liberal foundations.}
They use a hispanic ball player as the pitchman.
I do not know who he is
but English would appear to be his second language.
The ad opens with an image of someone firing a semi-automatic AR15
as fast as possible at a paper target.
{Note: Appears to be footage from a training film.
Not the same quality image as the rest of the ad.}
They then tell you about "assault" rifles,
{Note: They never defne what an assault rifle is.
Apparently if it "looks" like one it must be one.
They never define what an assault rifle looks like.}
They show someone holding an Bushmaster XM-15
(a semi-automatic rifle),
with a bi-pod, one handed and up in the air and
then talk about the DC sniper using this type of weapon,
{while not mentioning that the DC snipers used a stolen firearm.}
{The idea seems to be to make you think allowing assault rifles equals madmen killing people. While lying about the definition of "assault rifle".}
Then the ad tells us there are gunshow loopholes that must be closed.
{Note: They is no loophole. Just what has always been legal.
Private sales of long arms between individuals.)
The ad seems to imply that the end of the Assault Weapons Ban will lead to crazy men, armed with evil "assault rifles" running around shooting people.
{Note: Then implies that you, as a "good citizen",
must vote to extend the ban.}
Georgians for Gun Safety
c/o Atlanta/Fulton Commission on Children and Youth
100 Edgewood Ave. NE
Atlanta, GA 30303
Phone: 404-527-7426
www.georgiansforgunsafety.org
Alice Johnson, Director of Georgians For Gun Safety
About Georgians For Gun Safety:
Georgians for Gun Safety is a not-for-profit 501c4 organization
dedicated to bringing common sense to the gun debate.
{I thought not-for-profit 501c4 groups must not
actively participate in politics. Please someone enlighten me.}
While not against the "licensed and lawful use" of firearms among citizens, we seek to add an opposing voice to
the often overpowering use of money and resources
on the part of the NRA and other self-interest groups
to proliferate the spread and use of firearms.
For more information about Georgians For Gun Safety visit us at www.georgiansforgunsafety.org;
or call 404-527-7426.
{Note: They are a self-interest group!! )
______________________________________________________
Georgians For Gun Safety Calls Citizens' Attention To State House Bills 40 and 113
2/5/2003
Press Release
Georgians for Gun Safety
c/o Atlanta/Fulton Commission on Children and Youth
100 Edgewood Ave. NE
Atlanta, GA 30303
Phone: 404-527-7426
www.georgiansforgunsafety.org
NRA Supported Legislation Removes Prohibitions From Transporting Firearms In Vehicles and Would Make it Difficult for Law Enforcement to Search Vehicles For Guns, Even With Probable Cause
Identical Legislation is Submitted as Two Distinct Bills in a Parliamentary Maneuver Designed to Speed Passage
Atlanta, GA - Two exactly identical pieces of legislation have been submitted to the Georgia Legislature that would significantly limit the ability of law enforcement to search and retrieve illegal firearms from vehicles.
These bills, supported by the NRA,
would effectively make it legal for
non-permitted holders of firearms
{ordinary law abiding citizens that do not currently have a CCW.}
{In most CCW states only about 3% actually apply for and recieve a CCW.}
to carry them in moving vehicles and would prohibit Georgia law enforcement from searching for these weapons even with probable cause.
{Note: This is a "spin" on what is actually proposed}
{Note: Currently GA legally allows the carry of weapons in your vehicle as long as it is in a holster and in plain sight or in something like your glovebox, without a CCW.
If GA policemen have legal "probable cause"
they can search you vehicle today and after the bills are passed. }
"We are very concerned about this proposed legislation," said Alice Johnson, Director of Georgians For Gun Safety.
"Common sense
{who's common sense, mine, yours or theirs?}
and a need
{whose need?}
to improve public safety
{define public safety please}
would indicate to most people {NRA members or someone else? }
that it is unwise to limit law enforcement {No, it is wise to limit them.}
when they suspect {what probable cause do they have?}
that firearms may be
illegally maintained {define illegally please}
or transported in a vehicle.
It's hard to believe that with all the other priorities in our state,
including shrinking budgets,
poor education,
critical water issues and
clogged transportation that some legislators would feel that
an 'over the top' {please define how it is over the top! }
gun bill like this is a priority," she added.
{I find it hard to believe that Fulton County taxpayers are
paying her a salary, and paying for her office space! This in
a county were approx. 60% of high school students fail to
graduate in a state that ranks 49th in the nation in education.}
"This bill would significantly tie the hands of law enforcement and potentially endanger some of our officers' lives," said
William B. Shannon, Deputy Chief, Atlanta Police Department.
{Please note that this is only his personal opinion and in no way
indicates any expertise in regards to the 2nd Amendment/individual
rights to own firearms without government persmission or control.}
"Police departments across the state are already shorthanded.
Giving the potential bad guys
{Please give us a group discription.}
one more advantage
{Please define what that advantage may be. }
will not help us at all," he added.
In an interesting parliamentary maneuver, the proposed legislation has been submitted twice as identical bills.
The first bill submitted was House Bill 40.
The second, identical bill is House Bill 113.
House Bill 113 has been engrossed, which means that there can be
no amendments and must be passed without any changes.
The legislation is sponsored by Representatives
Day of the 126th district,
Snow of the 1st district,
Stephens of the 123rd district,
Roberts of the 131st district and
Powell of the 23rd district.
{Folks who live in those districts show call them
and lend them your support. }
"We're hopeful that citizens and legislators on both sides of the aisle will see that these bills do not serve the public good," said Johnson. "We urge citizens to write or call their elected representatives and voice opposition to these bills."
{Note: Now some more false propoganda.}
According to published statistics,
{Note: Published by whom? Based on what data?}
Georgia is already one of the leading states in terms of crimes committed outside of the state with both guns purchased and stolen in the state.
{What percentage purchased and what percentage stolen? }
For example, a recent study by
Americans For Gun Safety
found that Georgia ranked sixth
among all states in guns stolen per capita.
Making it easier to transport guns in vehicles
will only exacerbate this problem.
{How are these proposed laws making it easier for theifs?}
{Note: Please note that because "criminals" steal -
we would apparently need to have
Law enforcement make "no probable cause" stops and
searches of everyones vehicles. Makes no sense. }
{Note: Please note that they want to re-define what
"licensed and lawful use of firearms among citizens" will be.
Not what it currently is in GA.}
If you take time to read it all, it will be an interesting read!
This is an example of "they are doing it for the children" method at work.
They are also defining it as a public health issue instead
of a 2nd Amendment/individual rights issue.
"Georgians For Gun Safety"
Appears to be a state level version of
the group that calls themselves "Americans for Gun Safety".
This Atlanta front group is funded from outside sources to
attempt to manipulate Georgia Public policy on
Guns and Gun ownership.
{Note: The money trail backword is from:
1)Atlanta/Fulton Commission on Children and Youth,
Ms. Alice Johnson.
2) then something called Join Together
3) which is part of Boston University, School of Public health
4) funding ($$$$$) is from
The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation to the
Boston University School of Public Health.
5) In 1996, Join Together broadened its scope to include
gun violence prevention, supported by a grant from the
Joyce Foundation.
6) Additional funding for the GUN violence project was
awarded in 2001 by the
David Bohnett Foundation.
While the primary focus is/was substance abuse,
the group, with new sources of sponsor (with agendas) $$$
now believes that {money talks!}
communities need to employ comprehensive strategies
that respond to its related harms. {Note: They mean firearms. }
Georgians for Gun Safety:
This group is currently running anti-gun commercials daily,
on local TV stations, throughout the state of Geogia.
{Apparently for free as public service type annoucements or with
free $$$ from various liberal foundations.}
They use a hispanic ball player as the pitchman.
I do not know who he is
but English would appear to be his second language.
The ad opens with an image of someone firing a semi-automatic AR15
as fast as possible at a paper target.
{Note: Appears to be footage from a training film.
Not the same quality image as the rest of the ad.}
They then tell you about "assault" rifles,
{Note: They never defne what an assault rifle is.
Apparently if it "looks" like one it must be one.
They never define what an assault rifle looks like.}
They show someone holding an Bushmaster XM-15
(a semi-automatic rifle),
with a bi-pod, one handed and up in the air and
then talk about the DC sniper using this type of weapon,
{while not mentioning that the DC snipers used a stolen firearm.}
{The idea seems to be to make you think allowing assault rifles equals madmen killing people. While lying about the definition of "assault rifle".}
Then the ad tells us there are gunshow loopholes that must be closed.
{Note: They is no loophole. Just what has always been legal.
Private sales of long arms between individuals.)
The ad seems to imply that the end of the Assault Weapons Ban will lead to crazy men, armed with evil "assault rifles" running around shooting people.
{Note: Then implies that you, as a "good citizen",
must vote to extend the ban.}
Georgians for Gun Safety
c/o Atlanta/Fulton Commission on Children and Youth
100 Edgewood Ave. NE
Atlanta, GA 30303
Phone: 404-527-7426
www.georgiansforgunsafety.org
Alice Johnson, Director of Georgians For Gun Safety
About Georgians For Gun Safety:
Georgians for Gun Safety is a not-for-profit 501c4 organization
dedicated to bringing common sense to the gun debate.
{I thought not-for-profit 501c4 groups must not
actively participate in politics. Please someone enlighten me.}
While not against the "licensed and lawful use" of firearms among citizens, we seek to add an opposing voice to
the often overpowering use of money and resources
on the part of the NRA and other self-interest groups
to proliferate the spread and use of firearms.
For more information about Georgians For Gun Safety visit us at www.georgiansforgunsafety.org;
or call 404-527-7426.
{Note: They are a self-interest group!! )
______________________________________________________
Georgians For Gun Safety Calls Citizens' Attention To State House Bills 40 and 113
2/5/2003
Press Release
Georgians for Gun Safety
c/o Atlanta/Fulton Commission on Children and Youth
100 Edgewood Ave. NE
Atlanta, GA 30303
Phone: 404-527-7426
www.georgiansforgunsafety.org
NRA Supported Legislation Removes Prohibitions From Transporting Firearms In Vehicles and Would Make it Difficult for Law Enforcement to Search Vehicles For Guns, Even With Probable Cause
Identical Legislation is Submitted as Two Distinct Bills in a Parliamentary Maneuver Designed to Speed Passage
Atlanta, GA - Two exactly identical pieces of legislation have been submitted to the Georgia Legislature that would significantly limit the ability of law enforcement to search and retrieve illegal firearms from vehicles.
These bills, supported by the NRA,
would effectively make it legal for
non-permitted holders of firearms
{ordinary law abiding citizens that do not currently have a CCW.}
{In most CCW states only about 3% actually apply for and recieve a CCW.}
to carry them in moving vehicles and would prohibit Georgia law enforcement from searching for these weapons even with probable cause.
{Note: This is a "spin" on what is actually proposed}
{Note: Currently GA legally allows the carry of weapons in your vehicle as long as it is in a holster and in plain sight or in something like your glovebox, without a CCW.
If GA policemen have legal "probable cause"
they can search you vehicle today and after the bills are passed. }
"We are very concerned about this proposed legislation," said Alice Johnson, Director of Georgians For Gun Safety.
"Common sense
{who's common sense, mine, yours or theirs?}
and a need
{whose need?}
to improve public safety
{define public safety please}
would indicate to most people {NRA members or someone else?
}that it is unwise to limit law enforcement {No, it is wise to limit them.}
when they suspect {what probable cause do they have?}
that firearms may be
illegally maintained {define illegally please}
or transported in a vehicle.
It's hard to believe that with all the other priorities in our state,
including shrinking budgets,
poor education,
critical water issues and
clogged transportation that some legislators would feel that
an 'over the top' {please define how it is over the top! }
gun bill like this is a priority," she added.
{I find it hard to believe that Fulton County taxpayers are
paying her a salary, and paying for her office space! This in
a county were approx. 60% of high school students fail to
graduate in a state that ranks 49th in the nation in education.}
"This bill would significantly tie the hands of law enforcement and potentially endanger some of our officers' lives," said
William B. Shannon, Deputy Chief, Atlanta Police Department.
{Please note that this is only his personal opinion and in no way
indicates any expertise in regards to the 2nd Amendment/individual
rights to own firearms without government persmission or control.}
"Police departments across the state are already shorthanded.
Giving the potential bad guys
{Please give us a group discription.}
one more advantage
{Please define what that advantage may be. }
will not help us at all," he added.
In an interesting parliamentary maneuver, the proposed legislation has been submitted twice as identical bills.
The first bill submitted was House Bill 40.
The second, identical bill is House Bill 113.
House Bill 113 has been engrossed, which means that there can be
no amendments and must be passed without any changes.
The legislation is sponsored by Representatives
Day of the 126th district,
Snow of the 1st district,
Stephens of the 123rd district,
Roberts of the 131st district and
Powell of the 23rd district.
{Folks who live in those districts show call them
and lend them your support.
}"We're hopeful that citizens and legislators on both sides of the aisle will see that these bills do not serve the public good," said Johnson. "We urge citizens to write or call their elected representatives and voice opposition to these bills."
{Note: Now some more false propoganda.}
According to published statistics,
{Note: Published by whom? Based on what data?}
Georgia is already one of the leading states in terms of crimes committed outside of the state with both guns purchased and stolen in the state.
{What percentage purchased and what percentage stolen? }
For example, a recent study by
Americans For Gun Safety
found that Georgia ranked sixth
among all states in guns stolen per capita.
Making it easier to transport guns in vehicles
will only exacerbate this problem.
{How are these proposed laws making it easier for theifs?}
{Note: Please note that because "criminals" steal -
we would apparently need to have
Law enforcement make "no probable cause" stops and
searches of everyones vehicles. Makes no sense. }
{Note: Please note that they want to re-define what
"licensed and lawful use of firearms among citizens" will be.
Not what it currently is in GA.}
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