German #4 vs post recticle and speed of target aquisition

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Looking at getting a Trijicon Acupoint in 1.25-4 and was stuck between the amber German #4 and red triangle on post design. Basically, my priority is on speed of target aquisition. Which would you say would be faster.

The triangle might be theoretically faster as it is simpler, but the German #4 would look more familiar to me, which would help with speed. Feel free to comment on you're theories here even if you aren't familiar with Trijicon's line.
 
German post is an old design, being an advanced version of plain crosshair reticle, where lines were thin. Problem was that this kind of reticle was hard to see if the lighting conditions were a bit more demanding. So they came up with the idea of using thicker lines, making them more visible, yet keeping the center clear to actually see what you're shooting at.

But which one is faster? Depend only on you, which one you're feeling comfortable with. My guess is that the triangle is a newer touch, as it is simpler and thus may be easier to use, but plain German #4 ain't a difficult reticle too.

So, if you're more comfortable with #4 then go for it - habit is a second nature, it's difficult to start a new habit and get it onto a level where you're performing subconsciously.
 
We used the triangle reticles on Trijicons for a short while on some dept. CAR 15's years ago. None of us liked them so some of them sat in the vault for awhile until we got 3moa Aimpoints to replace them. In my case the triangle was more of a distraction than anything else. I never liked it.

I have only ever fired a shot or two with the german pointed post and crosshair reticle. If that is the No. 4 then it was okay by me. I prefer a regular duplex crosshair with mildots, but I would take almost anything over the triangle.

As for faster, I would say just about anything was faster for me than the triangle. YMMV of course. Drop a post and tell us what you went with.
 
Sneaky pete here: My m41/B Swed Sniper has what they called "Picket-Post" which is basically the German#4( the scope is a 1941 Ajack 4X90-made in Berlin) and the problem I had with it when Target shooting was tha I lost the "Point" on the post inside the black bullseye so I had to change to a 6:00 hold which worked better. THANX--SNEAKY
 
I wonder why more manufacturers don't expand on the German #4 with a Nikon BDC type reticle south post. For the critter hunting crowd.

Can someone explain to me what purpose the north post serves on reticles that aren't mil dot. This post just seems to get in the way and/or cover up a portion of the target.

Is it less expensive to produce a traditional cross hair vs. the #4?

Just curious.
 
I hunted with an older weaver k3 with a post/crosshair. In low light I had a tendency to shoot too high. It can be very difficult to master.
 
OP, I was wondering something slightly similar.

The Accupoint .pdf says the dot is 2.4 MOA to 0.9 MOA. Now, does having a dot at the intersection defeat the purpose of having a crosshair reticle in the first place??? I'm kind of in between on a plain red dot and the accupoint with dot and crosshairs.

Hope that's not too off topic.

pdf:
http://trijicon-inc.com/pdfs/AccuPoint.pdf
 
The Accupoint has a fiber-optic/tritium illuminated dot at the center of of the #4 crosshairs, so even if the normal post reticle would be somewhat slower - having the bright center dot for contrast should provide speed while still allowing good precision.

I haven't used the reticle myself; but Larue Tactical has a slideshow showing pictures of the reticle and it looks to me like it would be very practical.
 
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