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German hand gun

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Martieb814, Sep 15, 2011.

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  1. Martieb814

    Martieb814 Member

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    Looking for information and value on a gun I possess. It is marked with the eagle, MR near the trigger. Thanks
     
  2. rcmodel

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    Gonna have to have a lot more info then that.

    It could be anything with only an eagle proof mark to go on.

    rc
     
  3. Trebor

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    If your gun was a car, here is what you would have posted. "I'm looking for information on a car I possess. It's marked with "Ford" on the grille."

    Seriously, that's not even enough to begin to guess what you have.

    A clear, in focus, picture would help a lot. A better description would also help.
     
  4. bigfatdave

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    If your gun was a car, here is what you would have posted. "I'm looking for information on a car I possess. It has headlights and wheels"
     
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    If you want a reasonable answer post some clear photograhs of your firearm, both sides and closeups of the markings. Then you should be able to get a answer instead of the ribbing you've gotten so far.:)
     
  6. Shadow 7D

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    Yeah, so
    this thread is worthless with out pictures

    It's a gun with MR and an eagle
    but other than than, we know it's a gun, as for what type of gun
    or even if it's a pistol or revolver, yeah, IDK
     
  7. Martieb814

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    german pistol

    Photos attached for your help with value. Thanks
     

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    Wartime production Fabrique Nationale Pistole "GP" ("Grand Puissance"), other wise known as the Browning Hi-Power. A 13-shot, 9mm Parabellum, single-action, semi-auto. The first modern high capacity military semi-auto to make a big splash in the world. When the Germans overran Belgium early in WWII, they simply appropriated the superlative design for issue to their own forces and had FN continue production. The early occupation weapons maintained the highly polished blue finish for which the weapon was famous, but as the war progressed, weapons produced for the Germans received a more utilitarian "military" finish (like yours). Guns built for business...not looks.

    The Hi-Power is a truly classic handgun, in continuous production since before WWII, and still highly admired today. Once upon a time, it was the pistol which equipped many of our NATO allies and many other countries around the world. It was especially popular in Great Britain, where the weapon was used by most units, including the SAS (through the early 90s IIRC). Actually, some UK military outfits continue to issue them to this day. One of my UK Liaison Officers was packing a Browning just a year or two ago while in Iraq.

    Go here for more info:

    http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/index.html

    Be advised that the author of the site, Stephen Camp, passed away some months ago. His website is THE definitive source for info on BHPs.

    General Description: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browning_Hi-Power

    Value guestimate for your pistol (German issued, tangent sight, late war production, in the condition depicted): ~ $950. Possibly well over a thousand if you are patient and run it at auction on Gunbroker.com.

    Although the weapon displays rust & patina, ONLY CLEAN LIGHTLY IF YOU PLAN TO SELL. Your weapon appears to be all original, and collectors prefer original honest finish. If you intend to keep it, a little light bronze cleaning brush work with plenty of gun oil will take away some of the rust, but don't try to "polish the gun". You will detract from its sales value.

    Here's one on GunBroker with asking price of $1075 (and an aftermarket barrel):

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=251475845#PIC

    Realistically, another ~$950 gun. Or less.
     
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    Designed by Ogden, UT native, and famous gun designer, John Moses Browning; father of the 1911.:cool: He designed the BAR and severral other machine guns, as well as a level action rifle which he sold the rights to; the Wincheser Model 94. Along with several succesful shotgun designs. I live 5 miles from a museum in his honor...

    I have a NAZI-marked HP, but without the tangent sight. That sight adds a LOT of value.
     
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    That is a late war NAZI Hi Power, because the code WaA140 was the last one used. The later ones are rougher than the earlier ones, but the tangent sighted ones still command a premium. Depending on condition (and yours appears to be in good condition), it would be worth anywhere from $750 to $1200.
     
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    WOW... I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!!! Thank goodness you posted those photos with the serial number. I just looked and that's the Browning stolen from my great uncle back in 1995!!!! Where did you find it??? I'll PM my address so you can return it.

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    JUST KIDDING!!!:evil:

    I never post the full serial number just to prevent scammers from trying stuff like this.:D
     
  14. Lex Luthier

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    That's fantastic.
     
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    To be a nitpicker, JMB did not really design the BHP, Saive did, after Browning's death in 1926. Browning's last patent shows a gun with some features of the final version, but different enough to show that little of the Browning concept was used. Regardless of Browning's role (or lack of it) in the design, FN had found that the Browning name was like money in the bank, so the pistol was called the Browning High Power, not the Saive High Power.

    Jim
     
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    Actually, the HI Power is 90% JMB. I actually have a copy of the design submitted by JMB to FN. The only differences are that (because of French demands) Saive had to change the striker to a hammer, and add the mag disconnect. Saive also shortened the grip slightly, making the Hi Power a 13 round mag instead of the 15 round mag submitted by JMB.

    The confusion has always been because JMB created two designs to cover all the bases the French might want. Design #1 had a single column magazine and didn't much resemble the Hi Power. But FN didn't choose that one, they chose design #2 which other than being striker fired, is the Hi Power as we know it today.
     
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