Prince Yamato
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You know, I laughed, then I thought, "wait a minute... I've been to Georgia, I don't recall it being bumpkin..." I can understand how the native Georgians are offended by the portrayal of them as backwoods.
Get your shotgun - Russians Invade Georgia (Cartoon)
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lookn4varmints
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Exactly! They picked up some Alabama Slammers on their way through and needed the salted peanuts to go with 'em.
max popenker
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Invading Georgia? No way!
I bet our invasion force will land in Santa Barbara, CA
Just to check if that darn soap opera was true or not, and also to test the strengths of governator 
PS 'the best caliber for Russians?' has the only one correct answer
I bet our invasion force will land in Santa Barbara, CA
Just to check if that darn soap opera was true or not, and also to test the strengths of governator PS 'the best caliber for Russians?' has the only one correct answer
ltetmhs
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They wouldn't want to come mess with some real Georgian's.
^^^ truly the best caliber. I like the commercials.
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Lookin4varmints, the saying (which I first heard from my Dad years ago) concerns an apocryphal story about the Swiss Ambassador to Germany at the beginning of WWI when on a visit to the Kaiser, the Kaiser says to the Ambassador, "Well, our intelligence shows that your citizen army could mobilize a million men. What would you do if we invaded with an army of 2 million?" And the Ambassador's reply was "Each Swiss soldier would shoot twice and go home." Other variations of the story may include Hitler or Goring during WW2.
lookn4varmints
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Aw, cool, MarkinPNW! I knew it had to be something cool and worth knowing. Thanks for the explanation.
Nobody's_Hero
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Neat story.
"Shoot twice and go home."
"Shoot twice and go home."
ctdonath
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Reportedly, during early WWII, high level German and Swiss leaders met. The German said "we have 400,000 highly trained heavily equipped troops ready to roll over your country, you have 200,000 lightly armed citizens, what will your people do?" The Swiss leader shrugged and replied "shoot twice and go home". Switzerland was never invaded.
lookn4varmints
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That's sweet. I've never heard it and thanks for the education.
Landlocked Pirate
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As a lifelong Georgian, with a multigenerational Georgian ancestry, I got a kick out of the cartoon. As a stereotype, we could do far worse.
lookn4varmints
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I agree. Irrespective of the artist's intent, the cartoon certainly depicts a man with guts and a willingness to fight for what's his. That's a badge of honor, man.
I miss the days when you could tell a funny joke based on stereotypical humor without every ninny gasping in offense. We need to unpucker from all this PC excrement.
Landlocked Pirate
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And everybody that I showed it to here at the nuclear power plant where I work thought it was a hoot! They all loved it. They do see it as kind of a badge of honor.
Seminole
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While Russia is not to be trusted, the American public is by and large not just ignorant of the geography of this conflict (as suggested by the cartoon), but also of the most basic facts regarding the origins of the war. Unfortunately, the media has mostly limited itself to repeating the propaganda issued by U.S. and Georgian politicians, which casts Russia in the role of the agressor.
The fact is that Georgia actually started this fiasco by invading South Ossetia, which has been functionally independent since the breakup of the Soviet Union, first shelling and then overrunning South Ossetia's capital, which was left in smoking ruins, killing and wounding a number of Russian forces in the process, and sending tens of thousands of Georgian refugees (up to 40% of South Ossetia's population) streaming across the Russian border. Russia, which is pretty much South Ossetia's only ally, then reacted, chasing the Georgian army out of South Ossetia and pursuing them across the border into Georgia proper. The reality is far different from the simple black-and-white picture that is being sold to the American public, with Russia as the bad guys persecuting the poor Georgians who did nothing wrong.
MinnMooney
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I don't think Americans are as stupid as the cartoon depicts. The cartoon is yet another way for the antis and elitists to mock those in the hard working South. There are certainly a lot of Redneck Georgians and there are a lot of smart, Redneck Georgians.
The Swiss also decided to cooperate significantly with the German war effort and historians think the more convincing tactic was to mine the tunnels that the Germans used to move stuff to Italy.
They were in a hard place but we have to acknowledge that there was more to their not being invaded than their army. Sweden adopted the same strategy and made it through without invasion. They planned to destroy iron ore mines that the Germans needed as well as trying to mobilize their forces.
Read: Neither Friend Nor Foe: The European Neutrals in World War II by Jerrold M. Packard (Paperback - Jul 2000) if you want a realistic look at the neutrals in WWII and what they had to do to survive.
If Hitler wanted to invade either, they would have fallen.
They were in a hard place but we have to acknowledge that there was more to their not being invaded than their army. Sweden adopted the same strategy and made it through without invasion. They planned to destroy iron ore mines that the Germans needed as well as trying to mobilize their forces.
Read: Neither Friend Nor Foe: The European Neutrals in World War II by Jerrold M. Packard (Paperback - Jul 2000) if you want a realistic look at the neutrals in WWII and what they had to do to survive.
If Hitler wanted to invade either, they would have fallen.
Landlocked Pirate
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Well said.
lookn4varmints
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MinnMooney, you're absolutely right with your comments above, and I'm still not sure if you were actually offended by the cartoon, but please allow me further commentary. I'm really just trying to make a point, and it's not necessarily aimed at you. Your comments just gave me a good springboard.
I think we should politically fight and counter the antis and elitists at every turn, however, I refuse to award them the power to offend me. They can't personally offend us if we don't let them. They'll go to their graves trying to offend and mock hard-working folks and gunowners, and I've discovered the best way to fight 'em is to laugh in their face and continue to honor those ideals and institutions which they mock. It demoralizes and outright kills them when they realize they can't "get to you" and you still show up to vote for their opponents in spite of their attacks. Watch them during debates. They wig out and foam at the mouth when they see someone unaffected by their tripe. It's hilarious!
It's all a badge of honor for us because most Americans know their attacks are silly, elitist, and baseless.
Besides, we all know Georgia has beautiful women, great peaches, and some of the best boar hunting in the country.
Cosmoline
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Actually it was supposed to have happened prior to WWI, not WWII. The Kaiser was visiting the Swiss lines and was teasing one of the older militiamen about the comparative size of his army. I don't know if the story was ever verified, but it sure sounds like something he would have done. It would surprise many of us to know how welcome he was in "enemy" armed forces prior to the war. He was an honorary admiral in the RN and visited frequently. It was truly a different planet in 1913 than 1919.
This is the great myth of German invincibility. If you look more closely, those nations that fell were either riddled with Nazi sympathizers and friendly to the Germans or did not have the means (or will) to resist. The Swiss would have put up a serious fight, similar to the fight the Finns put up against Stalin. I suspect Hitler would have won in time, but the effort would have been very costly. Besides, the mountainous terrain would have made the usual German tactics much less effective. Plus, the fact is that when there was effective resistance the Germans did NOT simply blast over it. Otherwise the UK would have fallen in 1940.
feedthehogs
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Finaly a self thinking individual not buying the same crap we were handed about weapons of mass destruction.
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Define "start"? You act like everything happened last week. This has been boiling for some time.
Exactly! Russia is behind the whole South Ossetia thing and has been manipulating things there from the get go. Why? Russia needed a excuse to attack Georgia.
The Russians set this up better than it has ever been done before. It's a land grab, and Putin will get a pat on the back from the UN. Look for a repeat in Ukraine.
David
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I have a lot of family in Georgia. They're redneck but as a family they have more degrees than a thermometer. When I went to Georgia Southern I lived in a dorm named after my great aunt.
My aunt from Wisconsin, on the other hand, called the other day worried about my brother in Atlanta. She'd heard about the war... it took some explaining.
My aunt from Wisconsin, on the other hand, called the other day worried about my brother in Atlanta. She'd heard about the war... it took some explaining.
Valkman
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I looked at that cartoon again today and yep, it's still hilarious!
Cosmoline
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It is a funny cartoon. But we all know Max is going to invade ALASKA first, to reclaim it. And ol' painless is waiting.
Beagle-zebub
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A "capital" idea!
My dad went to Saratov once, and he said they served it chilled below freezing, such that he said it actually fogged. It sounded hardcore.
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