Everyone, before you condemn TetleyB, perhaps you should let him comment or clear up some things. In my mind, I believe that his statement about pulling someone out at gunpoint merely at the mention of having firearms in the car, or him seeing a firearm, meant if it was uncased (which is not lawful in this state) and accessible to the driver or passenger. Now, considering that it's unlawful, and also being up on your tactical knowledge (i.e., Tueller rule, OODA loops, action beats reaction, etc, etc. ad nauseum!) you would be a fool not to treat this as a serious threat to your survival. There are so many variables here that talking about it is nearly impossible. If I had just pulled someone over for a traffic violation, and in approaching the front doors (during my plain view observations of the interior of the car) I noticed an uncased handgun tucked between the seat and armrest, you darn well bet I'd have my handgun out, and quickly retreat to the rear of the vehicle, calling "Gun!" It is illegal to carry a weapon like that, and everyone should know it. Place yourself in that position and tell me you would do differently. I read in many discussion forums/tactics subforums about people's fabulous tactics and the way they handled something. Well, just because the person may (and I say this with reservation) be a law abiding (but rather just oblivious and lacking of commonsense) citizen carrying a weapon in plain view and accessible while driving, doesn't mean that a LE officer should throw caution to the wind and take that chance. I'd rather the LE go home at night and risk scaring the devil out of some "nermal" who didn't abide by the local law (however misplaced sometimes) of transporting firearms. Let's support our LE, not berate them.
There, rant mode off.
EricO
Bay Area, CA