Glock 45 but in reverse.

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daniel craig

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So the glock 45 is basically the 19 slide on the 17 grip (shorter slide but longer grip) why wouldn’t they make it in revers? The 17 slide (long) on the 19 grip. I feel like that would be a sweet setup.
 
or the 19 slide on the 26 grip - that would make it an ideal carry gun
 
So the glock 45 is basically the 19 slide on the 17 grip (shorter slide but longer grip) why wouldn’t they make it in revers? The 17 slide (long) on the 19 grip. I feel like that would be a sweet setup.
It is. I shortened the frame on a gen 3 17 for G19 mags, and had the finger grooves removed and the grip area retextured. Its an excellent pistol.
 
Cutting down the frame on various full size Glocks is a pretty common DIY modification. I've been tempted to do so myself. I have an extra G19 that I may well cut down to use G26 mags. It would be pretty versatile in that it would then take any mag made for a G26, G19, G17 or even the G18 mags
 
It is. I shortened the frame on a gen 3 17 for G19 mags, and had the finger grooves removed and the grip area retextured. Its an excellent pistol.
Did you do the work yourself? I have considered doing this.
 
So the glock 45 is basically the 19 slide on the 17 grip (shorter slide but longer grip) why wouldn’t they make it in revers? The 17 slide (long) on the 19 grip. I feel like that would be a sweet setup.
When Glock released the 19X and then the G45, there were pages and pages of threads on nearly every gun forum complaining about how stupid it was for Glock to do this and not use the G19 frame and the G17 slide.

I'm pretty sure the G45/G19X became the most popular gun in the Glock line-up (for a time at least, I'm sure they sell a bunch of G43/G48 etc. now) as Glock got on board with nearly every other gun manufacturer on the planet that offered a pistol with a full size grip and a 4"(ish) barrel, essentially 1911 Commander size.
 
It is. I shortened the frame on a gen 3 17 for G19 mags, and had the finger grooves removed and the grip area retextured. Its an excellent pistol.

Polymer 80 was making their 940CL frame which uses a G17 slide and G19 magazines. It is probably my favorite P80 frame and I have built several of them. The last one was with a G34 slide from 80P Builder.

From left to right: 940CL with G22 slide, 940CL with G17 slide and 940CL with G34 slide

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I wish I had a dollar for every post I have seen lamenting the shortsightedness of Glock for creating the 19X and G45…I’d have enough to buy another G45 or two. :D

I really like my G45. It fits my hands.
 
I wish I had a dollar for every post I have seen lamenting the shortsightedness of Glock for creating the 19X and G45…I’d have enough to buy another G45 or two. :D

I really like my G45. It fits my hands.

Everyones hands are different. I have small hands and prefer the grip length of the G19 over the G17. There is no right or wrong here, go with what works best for you.
 
Everyones hands are different. I have small hands and prefer the grip length of the G19 over the G17. There is no right or wrong here, go with what works best for you.

Agree. With my eyes if I want a rapid and clear front sight picure I need a barrel to be 4" or less, even with my Glasses.

Longer barrels and short grips in a carry gun do not appeal at all. Worse grip, harder draw, less comfortable IWB, harder to conceal OWB (need longer cover garment). It's the exact opposite of things I'd want, anyway.
 
Agree. With my eyes if I want a rapid and clear front sight picure I need a barrel to be 4" or less, even with my Glasses.

Longer barrels and short grips in a carry gun do not appeal at all. Worse grip, harder draw, less comfortable IWB, harder to conceal OWB (need longer cover garment). It's the exact opposite of things I'd want, anyway.

I do not CCW my compact long slide builds for that reason. They are better for fast recoil recovery and I enjoy shooting them at the range. The G19 grip length fits my hands better and I shoot more accurately with that grip length and longer slides. The CL with the G34 slide is a dream to shoot since the muzzle rise is a lot less than if I was shooting a G19 length slide.
 
I'd buy a lower aftermarket before I cut my OEM frame. Those 80% glock lowers are super cheap and unlike an AR finishing them is quite easy. I just got a 26 personally but the weird glock configurations are enabled quite well by 80% lowers.
 
I'd buy a lower aftermarket before I cut my OEM frame. Those 80% glock lowers are super cheap and unlike an AR finishing them is quite easy. I just got a 26 personally but the weird glock configurations are enabled quite well by 80% lowers.

I would not try to put a G19 slide onto the 940SC (G26) frame. The left front rail will be at the slide stop notch and teh slide is basically held on by three rails when shot.
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And you can use a G17 slide on the 940C (G19) frame but only if you use a Gen 5 G17 barrel or buy G19Long slide and barrel.

It's a shame that Polymer 80 has discontinued the 940CL frame.
 
I'd wager most of the market prefers the full size frame and shorter barrel to an unbalanced looking semi-compact frame with full size slide. I'm definitely in the crowd who would have no interest in a truncated grip frame on a 4.5-5" barreled pistol.
 
The Polymer 80 940CL frame (G17 slide and G19 grip) is not unbalanced and pretty smooth shooting. But then again I have small hands and the G19 grip length fits my hands well. It is not really a combo I would want for my EDC though. Now my 940CL frame with the G34 slide was a "because I can" build and for range use only. Yes it is a little awkward without a loaded magazine but is very smooth shooting with little muzzle rise.
I can agree that most will not want this type of combo especially for EDC. But they are a nice combo for target shooting. Now the G48 does seem to be the exception and is popular.
 
But then again I have small hands and the G19 grip length fits my hands well.
You've made that comment a couple of times.

There is no trigger reach advantage to the G19 frame over the G17 frame. The G19 frame is shorter top to bottom, but not front to back. A person with smaller hands may not be as disadvantaged with the G19 frame size as somebody with large hands may be, but the G19 doesn't really provide an advantage to the person with smaller hands.
 
You've made that comment a couple of times.

There is no trigger reach advantage to the G19 frame over the G17 frame. The G19 frame is shorter top to bottom, but not front to back. A person with smaller hands may not be as disadvantaged with the G19 frame size as somebody with large hands may be, but the G19 doesn't really provide an advantage to the person with smaller hands.

Could be the finger grooves (if it has em), the 19 grooves seem to suit smaller (i.e. smaller than mine anyway) hands over the full size grooves.

Palm swell is in a different place too, could make a difference. I certainly noticed a different feel comparing a 19 with 17 mag and xgrip, vs a 17.
 
You've made that comment a couple of times.

There is no trigger reach advantage to the G19 frame over the G17 frame. The G19 frame is shorter top to bottom, but not front to back. A person with smaller hands may not be as disadvantaged with the G19 frame size as somebody with large hands may be, but the G19 doesn't really provide an advantage to the person with smaller hands.

Yes I have and let me clarify that statement for everyone. It is the grip length and how the pistol stays put better in my hand while shooting it that makes the difference for me. I also put magwells on for a better fit to my hand too. And yes a shorter or longer grip can and does make a difference for some people.
 
The G19x and G45 suit me well. We are all built differently. So many firearms just don’t work so well, for me, so, when something does work for me, I will appreciate it. Each of us should find what works, for us.

My personal thoughts/factors/reasons:

1. I learned, long ago, that if I can conceal a G19, with a specific holster type and cover garment, I can generally conceal a G17 in the same place. My concealment nemesis, with blocky Glocks, has always been the outer rear corner of the slide. On a practical level, the shorter grip of the G19 provides me with no concealment advantage.

2. I have always shot G17-sized pistols better than G19-sized pistols. Even though I can get all of my skinny fingers onto a G19, the longer backstrap, and backstrap shape, of the G17/G19x/G45 just works better in my long hands. I believe that the grip making contact with the “heel bone” area, of my long hand, adds stability. A G19 grip is just a bit too short. This stability may not matter so much, for the first shot, but does matter when firing subsequent shots, at speed, as recovery, from each shot, is so very important.

3. As arthritis gets worse, in my right thumb, hand, and wrist, any handgun with a grip too short to reach the “heel bone” area of my hand, will cause damage, if fired with duty/service-level ammo. Actual, visible injury, not just pain. I traded-away three G19 pistols, in 2020, replacing them with more-“orthopedic” weapons.

4. A shorter slide/barrel are better, for me, when carrying IWB. I have a short torso and long arms, and, my shoulders are not getting younger, so, a weapon that clears the mouth of the holster, sooner, is an advantage.
 
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