Glock Carbine Conversion Kits

[trillium]

Are they any good?

FAB Defence KPOS for Glocks and Sigs

CAA Tactical RONI for Glock / XD / Jericho

H.E.R.A. Arms GLOCK Carbine Conversion

 

[Kingofthehill]

Im a bit foggy on the laws but wouldn't the use of a Stock or forward grip require a Tax stamp an registration?

The HERA looks awesome thought!

Joe

 

[JN01]

The OP is from Israel. Their stupid gun laws are probably different from our stupid gun laws.

 

[Motownfire]

I don't know, but they look cool.

 

[Sam1911]

Im a bit foggy on the laws but wouldn't the use of a Stock or forward grip require a Tax stamp an registration?

Here in the US, the addition of a stock to a handgun makes the gun into a "short-barreled rifle" which is regulated under Title II of the National Firearms Act of 1934. You must fill out a Form 1 to make an SBR and pay your $200 and receive you tax stamp before you add the stock.

If you want to add a vertical foregrip to a handgun, the same applies except that you're "making" and "Any Other Weapon." Fortunately, from the standpoint of practicality, a vertical foregrip on a semi-auto handgun is not only useless, but an active hindrance to accurate and fast shooting. So, except for the "forbidden fruit" aspect of them being considered federally "naughty," you don't want one.

Oddly enough, you may use a stock with a barrel over 16" installed in your handgun but that then permanently changes the gun to a rifle. This is perfectly legal. However, once the gun has been configured as a rifle, it cannot be changed to ANY other configuration -- including installation of the original factory parts -- or you will be making a "firearm made from a rifle" which is a regulated firearm again under the NFA.

But in Israel, who knows?

-Sam

 

[Sapper771]

Trillium,

Do the gun laws in Israel allow to own a short barreled rifle (under 16 inches) ?

 

[nalioth]

Im a bit foggy on the laws but wouldn't the use of a Stock or forward grip require a Tax stamp an registration?

The HERA looks awesome thought!

Joe

The OP is from Israel.

It pays to observe all information available before responding.

This is one reason we have necrothreads (folks don't observe that a newb has bumped a years-old thread with something inane)

 

[Kingofthehill]

It pays to observe all information available before responding

yeah, so its my bad i asked a question?

I did not say "YOU NEED TO DO XXXX because of XXXXX".... i phrased it in a question since i did not know.

give me a break, unreal

JOe

 

[trillium]

Trillium,

Do the gun laws in Israel allow to own a short barreled rifle (under 16 inches) ?
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Our gun laws are more stupid then yours.

I'll make it short for you - Only if you live near a border lines (up to 1 mile), or you are army officer (captain or above, NCO), or you are skilled IPSC sportsman (2 years active membership), or you are local law enforcement agent (ShinBet, Police, etc) you are allowed to buy and carry only 1 Pistol in any caliber or with any accessories you like.

Till this year , Micro Uzi considered a pistol under local laws, now its not.

Yes , there is always an exceptions (Civilian Snipers/Sharpshooters - Police volunteers , small unit ) but this is it .

So this kit is legal. I can even get a longer (6 inch) barrel for my Glock to use it with one of these.
:banghead:

 

[Harvey]

Another choice for the Glock conversion is the http://www.mechtechsys.com

I shoot one regularly with my 1911, and it's a real hoot. A fast and accurate carbine out to seventy-five yards or so.

 

[jon_in_wv]

yeah, so its my bad i asked a question?

I did not say "YOU NEED TO DO XXXX because of XXXXX".... i phrased it in a question since i did not know.

give me a break, unreal

JOe

Sorry, I have to side with nalioth on that one. I mean, the thread was dead for a whole 4 minutes. Everyone knows brain death occurs at 4 minutes.


Neat carbines. I wonder if they have longer barreled versions for us suckers in the US?

 

[Sam1911]

Neat carbines. I wonder if they have longer barreled versions for us suckers in the US?

That would be cool, but you might as well go ahead and pay for the Stamp to SBR it.

You'll have to anyway to legally make your Glock back into a pistol.

-Sam

 

[nalioth]

Neat carbines. I wonder if they have longer barreled versions for us suckers in the US?

16" Glock barrels are available in the USA.

You'll just have to contend with this weeks ruling from the revenuers of "once a rifle, always a rifle" (as opposed to the decades-long previous ruling that you could put a rifle-length barrel and stock on a pistol for the weekend and then change it back to a pistol on Monday morning).

 

[jon_in_wv]

Do the Mechtech conversions require the stamp? I thought if the conversion was over a certain length it was legal, in most states anyhow. I've also seen a long barrel and stock sold for the 1911. I don't have any clue how that all shakes out legally.

 

[nalioth]

Do the Mechtech conversions require the stamp? I thought if the conversion was over a certain length it was legal, in most states anyhow. I've also seen a long barrel and stock sold for the 1911. I don't have any clue how that all shakes out legally.

Up until last year, it was quite legal to use the MechTech (and similar) conversion on a pistol - converting it to a carbine for a weekend of hunting (or 3 gun or whatever) and putting it back together as a pistol on Monday morning.

Seeing that the word of the law hasn't changed a bit, one of the revenuers woke up one morning and said "OH NOES! I'VE COMPLETELY MISINTEPRETED THE LAW FOR DECADES (and my tummy hurts)! Let's change it to the opposing meaning. YAY I FEEL BETTER NOW."

You can't honestly believe that MechTech and others would bring their product to market and advertise as they did if they didn't get clearance from the ATF?