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Going long with 7.62x54R

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by tech30528, Jun 19, 2012.

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  1. tech30528

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    Got an opportunity to see some distance in a couple of weeks and thought I'd take the Mosin out. Any recommendation on ammo? The longest it's seen yet was 200 yards, it shot about 4" with milsurp. From what I'm told 1000 yards will be available to those who want to try it.
     
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    Try Prvi Partizan 182 grain. My PU loves it.
     
  3. Cal-gun Fan

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    Up to 1000 yards I'd probably want something more accurate than the Mosin. Unless it had been in some way accurized or with a heavy barrel added, along with a quality scope.
     
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    It has been cut down to 22 inches, recrowned and has a JP recoil eliminator on it along with a 32x scope and there is a Timney trigger on the way. Can't help it, it's my low buck project.
     
  5. rule303

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    You might be surprised what the Mosin will do at 1k with surplus ammo. I shot mine with Albanian heavy ball at 1,000 yds, was able to get about a 20" 10 shot group once I figured out the elevation. For whatever reason the boat tail bullets seem to settle down past 600 yards or so. I have experienced the same thing with .303 MKVII ammo.
     
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    I just hope you can keep the shots on the backstop:D Have fun but be safe
     
  7. tech30528

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    Well I'm sure we'll be walking it out. Obviously if I'm not hitting at 800 there isn't much point in stretching out. Don't know yet if we're banging gongs or punching paper, I'll have to find out so I know if milsurp is OK or if they would prefer soft tips. Also bringing the 10 22 with the 20 MOA drop mount to play with. See how far I can lob some of those out there. So far I've found that the Aguila Interceptors (40 gr 1470 FPS) only drop 7 1/5 inches from 100 to 150 yards. It's 3 days so there should be plenty of time to play.
     
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    I'd be happy with that. A 2 MOA rifle that costs less than $500 including all the toys is plenty good enough for me. Here in the Georgia mountains a 150 yard sight line is rare unless you are standing in the road. This is purely amusement.
     
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    Get an unmodified one and try out the 1000yd setting on the rear sight while you're there!:D
     
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    Milsurp will work just fine. I've also nailed that 1k gong iron sights with them set on 9 (3 others did on that same trip as well). Most fun 1k shooting you can have for the price.
     
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    Sounds like fun. I have an unmolested one as well, a 1928 Izzy. I originally bought it to do these mods, but all the numbers matched and it was in really nice shape. My wife liked it so much that she made me buy a different one to mod and leave that one alone. The only thing different on that one is a touch of hot pink nail polish on the front sight blade from back before I got contacts to collect my astigmatism.
     
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    My Mosins LOVE 203gr Barnaul soft points, and Czech 147grn silver tip.
     
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    That is a pretty good deal. I have seen single spam cans of 440 rounds selling for $85, but it has all been corrosive. And since I can't always get around to cleaning it out immediately after shooting I try to avoid the corrosive stuff.

    22 cents per round ain't bad at all
     
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    Yeah, I've heard that Windex works pretty well, especially if fortified with a little bit more ammonia. I own an auto repair shop so I mix up a squirt bottle with a strong solution of washer solvent concentrate. I chase that with a shot of alcohol brake clean (contains no water) and then Hoppe #9 and a bore snake. Just takes a minute or two. Think I'll go ahead and order the Wolf.
     
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    I've been down the road of trying to make a Mosin accurate. Depends on your definition of "accurate". That being said, the round might shoot 1,000 yards but in 99.9% of Mosin's, won't do it accurately. With a decent rifle, maybe 300 yards "accurately" and that's in context of an old rifle and surplus ammo. They are never going to be a .5 MOA or better rifle (which is what you need) to shoot 1,000 yards, however, they are fun and cheap.
     
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    Reminds me of Vassily Zeitsev.
     
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    It's shooting 2 MOA now, I'm hoping to tighten that up a bit with the new trigger. I've put about 40 rounds thru it since mounting the recoil eliminator, so it should be possible with a predictable trigger and loosing the flinch factor. The trick on these is getting one with a good bore. A lot of them weren't cleaned the way they needed to be so they have pitting, especially at the business end. This one was nice (I went thru every one in the store with a pocket flashlight, this one came from a later order since I wasn't happy with any he had the first time I was looking for it) and then I cut about 6 1/2 inches off of it. The rifling is very pronounced at that point, clearly evident when it was recrowned. I wouldn't buy one on the web. It will be a fine deer rifle for this area with our short sight lines, 2MOA makes a 3 inch circle at 150 yards, plenty accurate for loading the freezer. But even better will be hitting out to distances I've never shot before with a sub $500 rifle. Of course, if it shoots well enough I'll have to order that custom laminate stock and that will wreck the "cheap" factor, then it will just be another cool build that shoots cheap ammo.
     
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    Just got the Timney trigger for it. Swweeeeet, and it has a trigger safety on it operated by your right thumb. I'm going to leave it at the higher end of the pull for now (about 4 pounds) and see how it does.
     
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    Its not at all impossible to make 1,000 yard shots with a Mosin Nagant, but most , indeed, need 'tuneing' to get decent groups past 300 yards. Most M-39's, in 'As issued' can be a good start.

    We use a spotting scope, an old school desk, a folding chair and a 55 gallon oil drum and pace off 1,000 0r so yards in 100 yard incremets and have at it. drums are 2 feet across and 4 feet tall , or there about.
    We do this in winter, and we use a snowmachine on the frozen river to go back and forth.

    At that distance an oil drum in visible and the hits make a deep resounding sound. Takes some prectise and a sheet of paper and pencil can help keep track of your settings.

    Some guys I have seen can keep the groups of 5 all on the drum, I get about 1/2..........
     
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