Good analysis from The Reload on the stalled AWB effort in the House of Representatives

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Ignoring for the moment that an AWB is dead in the Senate before it even has a chance to get a vote, will the House get a floor vote on an AWB before the midterms after failing to get to the floor this week? Will Pelosi need help from Republicans in the House to get it to a floor vote since several in her own party won't support it? Would such a vote cost them the midterms and is that risk enough to kill the effort?

https://thereload.com/house-Democrats-balk-delay-assault-weapons-ban-vote/
There will not be a House vote on the “assault weapons” ban this month.

Democrats failed to come to a compromise on how to move forward with both the ban and a police funding initiative on Wednesday. Instead of being scheduled for a vote by the end of this week, they have pushed both bills past the August recess.

“For safer communities, Members have been working on a package of critical public safety bills,” Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) said in a statement to Punchbowl News, which first broke the news. “As those discussions are continuing, it is clear that the House will reconvene in August in order to vote for the Reconciliation bill.”

The odds of the assault weapons ban ever getting a vote in the House are now diminished. Leadership has not been able to juggle balancing the interests of competing factions to this point. It’s unclear if they can get it done before the midterms arrive.

The bill would ban the sale of semi-automatic rifles and shotguns that are equipped with one or more features such as a pistol grip, flash suppressor, or adjustable stock. It would ban hundreds more guns by name, including the popular AR-15 rifle. It is similar in language to, though more aggressive than, the federal assault weapons ban passed in 1994. Enacting a new ban has been a key gun policy proposal from Democrats, including President Joe Biden, since the earlier ban expired in 2004.

The House Judiciary Committee cleared the bill last week with hopes of having it brought up for a full vote by the end of this week. However, the declining popularity of the ban coupled with the increasing popularity of the guns it seeks to outlaw appears to have some Democrats second-guessing the plan.

“This is a bill that destroyed the Democrats in ‘94. I guess, do we really have a death wish list as Democrats?” Representative Kurt Schrader (D., Ore.) told Politico last week. “It undermines what we already did and reemphasizes to all the people in America that are not hardcore urban Democrats that our party’s out of touch.”

The fact it doesn’t have the votes to pass the Senate regardless of what the House does has added to the difficulty of the election-year vote as well.

John Bresnahan, who has spent decades covering Capitol Hill and co-founded Punchbowl, said the bill isn’t doomed yet. He said Pelosi needs more time to try and please progressive members and those from the Congressional Black Caucus as well as moderates. The former want the ban and limits on how police funds can be used, while the latter are leery of the ban and pushing for the funding.

“I think the window is still open,” Bresnahan told The Reload. “When you get that close, you don’t just walk away from it.”

He said Pelosi can afford up to four defections from Democrats and still be able to pass the bill. With somewhere over 210 members already on record supporting the bill, leadership only needs to bring a few more on board. The failure to corral a vote before the recess is a notable setback, but Bresnahan said Democrats have until the end of September to figure out how to get their caucus to agree.

“There are always members who are, you know, ‘I’ll be with you if you need me, just don’t ask me unless you really need,'” Bresnahan said. “They always have a vote or two to play with, especially somebody like Pelosi, who’s a master of the floor.”

However, he also noted the task would get more challenging if Republican Brad Finstad wins the August 9th special election in Minnesota’s first congressional district. That would shrink the margin to just three Democratic defections. With Democrats Cuellar (Texas), Gonzalez (Texas), Golden (Maine), Kind (Wis.), and Schrader (Ore.) indicating they plan to vote against it, Bresnahan said it’s likely Pelosi will have to reach beyond her caucus to get it done.

“I do think they’re going to have to pick up some Republican votes,” he said. “They’re very, very close.”

There may be just enough votes to make it happen. Republicans Fitzpatrick (Pa.), Jacobs (N.Y.), Kinzinger (Ill.), and Upton (Mich.) all voted for the House ban on magazines that hold more than 15 rounds of ammunition. Rep. Upton’s office told The Reload he had not decided whether to support the bill last week. But Kinzinger, Jacobs, and Rep. Brian Mast (R., Fla.) have publicly supported banning “assault weapons” in the past.

Ultimately, the best tell for whether the bill can pass is whether it actually gets scheduled for a vote.

“If Pelosi goes to the floor, she will have it,” Bresnahan said.
 
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I’m in a low data environment. Did this just happen in the last few minutes? No floor vote for the time being?
 
Poor analysis. Everything I am reading says the House will be voting on it Friday. According to the calendar, they started at 3:48 local time.
H.R. 1808 DEBATE - The House proceeded with one hour of debate on H.R. 1808.
H.R. 1808 Rule provides for consideration of H.R. 1808 with 1 hour of general debate. Motion to recommit allowed. Bill is closed to amendments.
H. Res. 1302. H.R. 1808
Considered under the provisions of rule H. Res. 1302. H.R. 1808 — "To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes."

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2684...lt-weapons-ban-after-drama-over-policing-deal

Full text and bill tracker.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1808/text
 
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This bill, if you were a gun banner, would be idiotic. It contains the same flaws that the initial AWB possessed which guaranteed that it would have no effect on what they wanted to accomplish. Despite claims that the AWB did something, the realistic literature found it did little.

Might also be called - I got stock in Ruger bill. Ruger Mini-14s and Ruger PCCs are exempt unless you have some attachments that do nothing to impact their lethality.
 
If you go through the list of banned weapons, they are going after 22lr AR's and even the Hi Point Carbines.

And if you put a pistol grip or thumbhole stock on your Ruger 10/22, then it is illegal too. This bill is way to restrictive. We all need to keep on our Senators to make sure this does not pass in the Senate.
 
Recoil called the stalled effort wrong and Pelosi got the votes she needed to get this bill through the House.
https://apnews.com/article/gun-violence-politics-shootings-congress-fd91c092aef91a992ee959399ba6f222

Reps. Chris Jacobs of New York and Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania were the only Republicans to vote for the measure. The Democratic lawmakers voting no were Reps. Kurt Schrader of Oregon, Henry Cuellar of Texas, Jared Golden of Maine, Ron Kind of Wisconsin and Vicente Gonzalez of Texas.

Now it will be seen if it can get passed in the Senate.
 
It contains the same flaws that the initial AWB possessed which guaranteed that it would have no effect on what they wanted to accomplish. Despite claims that the AWB did something, the realistic literature found it did little.
This one, in House guise, does change to one feature versus two; and has no sunset; and does not allow existing manufacturers to "simply change features" (see "variations or modifications of"). There's also the fillip that existing arms would require (so far) transfer through an FFL.

Now, this bill is also full of pork goodies to dangle at the electorate at the midterms, which is why it was stalled at the time the article was written. That logjam was broken Thursday night.
 
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